Roe Vs Wade Overturned

[WeezyBengal]

(06-25-2022, 07:24 PM)pally Wrote: It is always interesting to see the opinions on abortion from men who will never have to live the actual reality of the impact an unplanned unwanted pregnancy has on a woman. Or the impact of carrying a child who will be born only to quickly die.  Or having to give up everything to take care of a profoundly disabled child. Sure there is some impact on the father but they aren't the one whose entire life and health will change because of a pregnancy.

First of all, you will never ever legislate abortion out of existence.  It has been part of society since women first became pregnant.  What is being done is safe abortion for poor and marginalized women is being outlawed.  It is being outlawed in states with minimal social safety nets, underperforming education systems, and poor records of conviction for crimes against women.  They are condemning another generation of children to poverty, in many cases.  Many of these states don't have the capacity to handle an increase in abandoned healthy children let alone special needs children.  

Women have lost the right to make decisions for themselves concerning their bodies and their families. If you don't understand why women are upset then you are oblivious.  This isn't about just the right to abortion.  And it was done by right-wing extremists on the court pushing their personal religious beliefs on Americans.  All of Trump's judges were chosen by the right-wing Federalist Society.  Gorsuch has a seat McConnell obstructed for a year so it wouldn't be filled by the duly elected President.  Then he changed Senate rules so he would be confirmed.  Justice Kennedy retired under some very unusual circumstances so that Kavanaugh could be nominated.  Kavanaugh had several million dollars in debts cleared up mysteriously (well above his financial means to pay off like they were) with no investigation that should have disqualified him.  But McConnell's rules prevailed again.  And oh yeah let's talk about ramrodding Barrett through with less than a month to election day with voting already underway despite that being the argument McConnell used to block Garland
.  Let's not forget about Thomas whose wife was actively involved in the coup attempt to keep Trump in office.  Thomas has already announced he is after birth control, same-sex marriage, and sexual freedom for consenting adults.  There will be more.  EVERY human being has a right to privacy in their bedroom and doctor's office.  
So now states, like Ohio, with heavily gerrymandered state legislatures have made abortion virtually unobtainable.  What they haven't done is address ANY of the issues that lead to abortion in the first place.  Or to put in any assistance to change things once a child is born.  Ohio minimum wage won't support 1 person let alone a child.  There is no mandatory paid maternity leave.  Minimal help for daycare, and early childhood education. Medicaid is restricted.  There are NO new laws forcing child support payments from the time of conception, and no life insurance in case of miscarriage.  No rules spelling out the paternal responsibility.  Nope, the entire burden is on the woman.  

There is more to being pro-life than being pro-birth but frankly, that is where it stops for most of that movement.  They look at you blankly when after birth is brought up.  They are all pro-adoption, which is unaffordable for many, only if these babies go to good "Christian" homes of course.  Adopted children have demons of their own.  There is a very real mental health issue surrounding the feeling of abandonment from birth parents and detachment from adopted parents.  No help with mental health care either from the pro-life crowd.

I am proudly pro-LIFE but this is not the way to end abortion. It is a way to alienate a large part of the population though.  It is a poorly written decision that will have unforeseen profound repercussions.  We are headed toward rule by a Christian Taliban.  We are dangerously close already in far too many states.  Sadly though they have already taken over the Supreme Court.

As a Christian (and someone who leans pro choice and is against what happened with overturning Roe vs. Wade) this statement frustrates me (and I'm not even sure who the frustration is aimed at, to be honest). 

Just because someone is pro life doesn't make them Christian and vice versa. Being pro life wasn't written in stone by Christians, its an ideal that Christians believe in but not one that they COMPLETELY own. 

I guess I am just a little frustrated how some people out there are attacking Christianity over this and looking at Christianity as the singular focus of why this happened.