06-30-2022, 10:05 AM
(06-30-2022, 08:15 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I think anyone with any semblance of reason knows most of the people in history who did big things had flaws. They were human, just like everyone else. "You cannot learn from the past if you refuse to acknowledge it" is a phrase that fits my point exactly. Columbus sailed across the ocean and "discovered" the new world (and yes, I know the Vikings had already been here) but we are no longer allowed to acknowledge that fact because of what he did to the natives. Lee, Jackson, and Longstreet were some of the finest field Generals ever produced in this country, but we can no longer acknowledge that because of slavery. Yet we can put aside Lincolns views on slaves and pretend like he wasn't a racist because of his Emancipation Proclamation. Washington, Jefferson, and all the rest from Columbus to Roosevelt are being wiped from history by the woke mob, because they don't fit today's version of what a person should be.
And BTW, "Woke" is a negative, and finally people are starting to see that. You may think it is the definition you posted, but it's a monster out of control.
A monster "out of control" only through the very narrow lens of the right-wing perspective. Tucker throws around that word like it's an insult and you all dutifully follow along like parrots. The rest of the world laughs at you every time you all use the term because it is only an insult in your insular world. I care about my fellow man and his circumstances. If that makes me woke, then I proudly claim the title.
You both acknowledge that Columbus didn't discover America and claim that he did. Why can't we just teach the bloody truth? If that means Columbus no longer gets credit, get over it. Others were here first. Why do you approve of their history being erased? Because it doesn't fit the fantasy narrative of yesteryear? We can acknowledge Confederate generals' military expertise without glorifying them. They committed treason against the United States. They fought to keep people in chains. No amount of whitewashing will ever change that reality. Every single state in the Confederacy listed the right to own slaves as the reason for their succession, but all that has been taught in many places was "state's rights" ignoring the right they wanted was slaves. No statues, no hero status for these people...they were neither. If you are properly teaching Abraham Lincoln, you teach his evolving views. Again you teach his reality not some fantasy.
If you want to talk about erasing history, look no further than all these new laws that forbid the teaching of "divisive" issues. Real American history is divisive. Very little of it is actually happy happy joy joy. Much of it is very ugly. You cannot teach American History without talking about division because that division has existed since Day 1 and has driven events since then. The Constitution was a compromise that failed to include anybody but white males. Women, Blacks. Hispanics, and Native Americans all exist and have had to fight for every right they have. Why is their reality and history not considered part of our collective history? Why don't conservatives want it taught? Conservatives refuse to acknowledge that.
I ask again...why are conservatives so afraid of reality?
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