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The American Two Party system
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(03-05-2023, 10:12 PM)hollodero Wrote: Thanks. I wonder why at times, but cool!



I never meant to speak against American greatness per se, and I get that mentality might play a huge part in that, besides other advantages. (I did say that it probably has nothing to do with the particular brilliance of two-party system.) I also think ongoing success is never guaranteed over time. Not to attack all your argument's sake, but my problem with it is that it can be used quite arbitrary. As in because that is true, there can be nothing wrong with anything.
Eg. capitol storms or coup attempts or attacks on politicians and an increasingly brutalized debate - and all the other symptoms for a not so healthy democracy - are not worrisome because the US landed on the moon before the Soviet Union could. I know your point is more sophisticated than that, but just to explain what my philosophical issue with it is.

My point is not more sophisticated than that. We, or many of us, can be rather sophomoric when it comes to the US. Yes we had a coup attempt that had no chance of accomplishing anything. Assholes can be assholes, but on January 20th Biden became president and it was never in doubt. I don’t mean to minimalize it, but if they went in and killed twenty senators, Biden would still have become President because there isn’t another option. We survived the American Civil War. We’ve had four presidents assassinated. If someone were to lay odds on the country surviving after having the Civil War and then weeks after it’s over Lincoln being assassinated they would not be very good.

I just bring up the moon landing and what we did to produce the weapons and everything else during WWII to show our perspective. We don’t think anything is too big to overcome. I imagine someday we will be wrong, but I don’t think this is it.

I’m not great at expressing myself philosophically. I go off on tangents and can bring up things that seem irrelevant, but make sense in my head because I have the whole picture of what I’m thinking but don’t always lay it all out.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall

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The American Two Party system - hollodero - 03-01-2023, 07:56 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - treee - 03-01-2023, 08:54 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - michaelsean - 03-05-2023, 10:42 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-10-2023, 02:09 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-07-2023, 10:36 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - treee - 03-06-2023, 05:45 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-07-2023, 09:08 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-10-2023, 05:33 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-12-2023, 03:02 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-17-2023, 02:24 AM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-17-2023, 03:25 AM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-10-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-09-2023, 06:43 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-10-2023, 01:03 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - Dill - 03-10-2023, 01:07 PM
RE: The American Two Party system - GMDino - 03-11-2023, 12:43 PM

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