Thoughts on Dre K ?

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(03-13-2016, 10:57 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Once again you are clearly cherry picking just the random stats that make Dre look the worst.  Reminds me of your comical attempt to claim Marvin Jones wasone of the worst deep threats in the league based just on the lenghth of his longets reception.

When i want to judge a CB those are a few of the last numbers I would look at.  What was the QB passer rating for targets at Dre?  How many times was he targeted compared to our other CBs.  these are the imnplortant stats.  not just the 3 worst ones you could find.

first of all what was the QB passer rating

First off, if you're going to continue to troll my posts, at least have the decency to stop making up things. I never ever claimed Jones was one of the worst deep threats in the league. I claimed he was an average/mediocre deep threat. I was just disagreeing with someone saying he was a great deep threat, because I simply don't believe someone can be a great deep threat if they have 12.6 yards per catch. What's deep about that?

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That aside, I don't know the QB Rating for targets at Dre but PFF gave him like a 38.8/100 rating for 2015. Here's the rest of the Bengals secondary...

Nelson at 84.2
Adam at 84.0
Iloka at 82.6
Hall at 78.4
Shaw at 73.8
Williams at 73.7
Dennard at 73.4

...so Kirkpatrick's 38.8 is a big steaming pile that was propped up by an otherwise great secondary.


What I also know is that Dre was the 2nd highest targeted CB in the NFL at 112 targets. The only person targeted more was Marcus Peters, and that was because he was a starting rookie CB, but at least he turned all those targets into a good season by tying for the INT lead (Dre had 0) and becoming a Pro Bowler and 2nd Team All-Pro in his first year in the NFL. He was the 18th overall pick, awfully close to Dre's disappointing 17th overall spot.

No matter how you spin it, Kirkpatrick is a bust and just not very good.