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Thoughts on Dre K ?
(03-17-2016, 01:33 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Actually as a person with a high school level of logical arguments I am laughing at you right now.

"If A then B" can not be used to prove "If not A then not B".  You can not use two opposite fact patterns to prove the same point.

The fact that Dre starts on a good defense is important because if he was bad teams would pick on him and gain yards.  But, while Justin Smith was an elite player offenses simple avoided him to pick on weaker parts of the defense.

I know that not every player on a good defense is automatically good.  But when I watch the Bengals it is clear that opposing QBs are not able to just pick on Dre to drive down the field and score.

- Don't pick on Dre K? Uncross your eyes. The hell they don't! Who did they pick on? Pacman? Nelson? Pffffft!

- I used those examples because it refutes what your entire opposition to the idea that Dre K sucks is based on the fact that the Bengals D as a whole is good so, therefore, he must be good or he wouldn't be out there. Yet you ignore the possibility that he could be a bad player on a good defense. You are using circular logic that doesn't even complete it's entire circle because it doesn't make sense to begin with.



- Your made up claim that teams schemed away from Justin Smith is bogus.

Weird how teams "avoided Justin Smith" but he led all DEs in tackles. That doesn't make any sense unless you're proposing that he ran down all of those tackles in the middle or opposite end of the field. Come on, man. That's absurd.

Not only is it absurd, but unsubstantiated unless you can show some sort of data or video proof of it. Otherwise it's just made up.


Here, I'll make one up.... Dre Kirkpatrick was the 3rd most penalized player in the NFL last season and 3rd most penalized in amount of yards. Oh, wait a sec... I didn't make that up. it's 100% true!!!!! http://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties-player.html


^ You know, because who would pick on the 2nd most penalized CB in the entire NFL? Other teams aren't smart enough to do that, are they? This just in: He holds and has illegal contact penalties and PI flags because... Wait for it..... Wait for it... HE'S POOP!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-13-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Fresno B - 12-13-2015, 09:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-13-2015, 09:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-13-2015, 09:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Rattler - 12-13-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-13-2015, 09:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TKUHL - 12-13-2015, 10:55 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 03-11-2016, 08:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BritishBengal - 12-13-2015, 09:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PApinhead - 12-13-2015, 09:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Whacked - 12-13-2015, 09:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BigPapaKain - 12-13-2015, 10:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 12-14-2015, 06:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - huntinfool01 - 12-13-2015, 10:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bengaldor - 12-13-2015, 10:50 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Atomic Orange - 12-13-2015, 11:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-13-2015, 11:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Element - 12-13-2015, 11:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - LebanonFan - 12-13-2015, 11:57 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bengal Dude - 12-14-2015, 04:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - LebanonFan - 12-14-2015, 05:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-11-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - J24 - 12-14-2015, 12:02 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Yojimbo - 12-14-2015, 12:03 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Au165 - 12-14-2015, 04:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Derrick - 03-13-2016, 08:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalFanInNJ - 12-14-2015, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - SunsetBengal - 12-14-2015, 06:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-14-2015, 06:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 12-14-2015, 07:15 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jfkbengals - 12-14-2015, 07:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-14-2015, 08:50 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 01:09 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Aquapod770 - 12-15-2015, 01:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 01:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TGISunday - 12-15-2015, 03:15 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 03:42 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - reuben.ahmed - 12-15-2015, 01:14 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 01:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 12-15-2015, 01:39 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - reuben.ahmed - 12-15-2015, 04:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 04:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - wolfkaosaun - 12-15-2015, 04:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - reuben.ahmed - 12-15-2015, 04:44 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 12-15-2015, 08:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 04:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-11-2016, 11:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-11-2016, 02:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-11-2016, 07:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 03-11-2016, 08:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 03-12-2016, 11:01 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 12-15-2015, 01:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - M.W. - 12-15-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Murdock2420 - 12-15-2015, 02:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - sonofstat - 12-15-2015, 02:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 03:43 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PApinhead - 12-15-2015, 04:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 04:55 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 05:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 05:16 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Marlon23 - 12-15-2015, 05:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 05:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Joelist - 12-15-2015, 03:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - wolfkaosaun - 12-15-2015, 04:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 12-15-2015, 07:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Beaker - 12-15-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 12-15-2015, 09:01 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Fresno B - 12-15-2015, 09:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PApinhead - 12-15-2015, 10:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 12:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-16-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-15-2015, 09:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Fresno B - 12-15-2015, 09:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 12-15-2015, 09:58 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 10:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-15-2015, 10:27 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 10:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-15-2015, 10:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 10:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 12:43 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-16-2015, 02:00 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 12:30 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 06:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 06:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BigPapaKain - 12-15-2015, 11:48 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - bfine32 - 12-16-2015, 01:57 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 02:19 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - JonasNJ - 12-16-2015, 12:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 07:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-16-2015, 09:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 09:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-16-2015, 10:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-17-2015, 01:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 07:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jeremydc - 12-17-2015, 07:18 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Crowe - 03-11-2016, 02:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - GreenCornBengal - 03-11-2016, 02:20 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 03-11-2016, 03:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 03-11-2016, 05:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 03-11-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bengal Dude - 03-11-2016, 05:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - grampahol - 03-11-2016, 06:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - HarleyDog - 03-12-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-12-2016, 10:10 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Atomic Orange - 03-11-2016, 07:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - magikod - 03-11-2016, 07:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-11-2016, 07:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-13-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-13-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Butchie Tiger - 03-11-2016, 11:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-13-2016, 10:59 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 03-13-2016, 07:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-14-2016, 01:47 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 03:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-14-2016, 04:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-14-2016, 04:58 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-14-2016, 11:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 11:47 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-15-2016, 12:13 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-15-2016, 01:10 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-15-2016, 04:41 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-15-2016, 11:45 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 03-15-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-15-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 03-15-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-15-2016, 07:27 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 09:54 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 02:00 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 05:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 05:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 01:44 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-15-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-14-2016, 11:00 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalChris - 03-12-2016, 02:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - phil413 - 03-12-2016, 03:07 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 11:13 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 10:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Nately120 - 03-13-2016, 02:17 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-13-2016, 02:45 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 03-13-2016, 12:20 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Westwood Bengal - 03-13-2016, 01:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Synric - 03-13-2016, 01:34 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-13-2016, 02:52 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Synric - 03-14-2016, 01:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Synric - 03-14-2016, 08:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jfkbengals - 03-13-2016, 02:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-14-2016, 02:34 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-14-2016, 10:28 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-14-2016, 10:54 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-13-2016, 02:49 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - J24 - 03-14-2016, 07:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 07:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-15-2016, 04:48 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-15-2016, 05:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 02:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 04:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 05:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 11:03 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 12:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 01:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 01:52 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 02:30 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:28 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 02:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 02:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 01:39 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 01:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 09:49 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - GreenCornBengal - 03-16-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 04:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-16-2016, 07:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Garrus - 03-17-2016, 02:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - CageTheBengal - 03-20-2016, 01:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jfkbengals - 03-20-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-20-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - CageTheBengal - 03-20-2016, 02:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bilbo Saggins - 03-21-2016, 01:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - CageTheBengal - 03-21-2016, 10:23 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - t3r3e3 - 03-20-2016, 11:38 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 11:16 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Nately120 - 03-20-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 11:11 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 01:14 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 01:54 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 01:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 01:57 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 10:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-22-2016, 06:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 01:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Garrus - 03-21-2016, 11:32 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Atomic Orange - 03-22-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - zygrot24 - 03-22-2016, 07:15 PM

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