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Thoughts on Dre K ?
(03-21-2016, 12:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Penalties are a stupid way to judge CBs.  Dre only had one more penalty than Aqib Talib who is considered one of the better CBs in the league.  This is a classic case of cherry picking esoteric stats to support an opinion.

And his 16 PDs rank 11th in the league.  So i don't know how that is a negative.

- Read the link I posted for you a page back. this is now the 2nd freaking time I have had to correct you on it. Talib had 9 penalties for 80 yards to Dre's 13 for 118. 

- Penalties on a CB are incredibly relevant. Not only can it show them getting beat (thus the penalty) but virtually every penalty a CB gets =  a first down.

- You brushing aside a guy having a penalty problem and being a league leader in a negative stat is amazing.

- I'm not cherry picking any stat, Fred. I have lots of Dre K stats to post and have repeatedly. You know how many Dre K stats you have come up with in your research on the subject (clearly you've done none or you wouldn't be defending him)? You have originated ZERO and just repeated my 16 pass breakups.

And 16 pass breakups is good! But, Dre K was also one of the most targeted CBs in the league (because he sucks and the league knows it) so I would expect him to make some plays with so many chances. Just NO INTs, though, right?
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Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-13-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Fresno B - 12-13-2015, 09:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-13-2015, 09:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-13-2015, 09:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Rattler - 12-13-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-13-2015, 09:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TKUHL - 12-13-2015, 10:55 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 03-11-2016, 08:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BritishBengal - 12-13-2015, 09:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PApinhead - 12-13-2015, 09:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Whacked - 12-13-2015, 09:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BigPapaKain - 12-13-2015, 10:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 12-14-2015, 06:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - huntinfool01 - 12-13-2015, 10:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bengaldor - 12-13-2015, 10:50 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Atomic Orange - 12-13-2015, 11:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-13-2015, 11:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Element - 12-13-2015, 11:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - LebanonFan - 12-13-2015, 11:57 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bengal Dude - 12-14-2015, 04:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - LebanonFan - 12-14-2015, 05:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-11-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - J24 - 12-14-2015, 12:02 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Yojimbo - 12-14-2015, 12:03 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Au165 - 12-14-2015, 04:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Derrick - 03-13-2016, 08:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalFanInNJ - 12-14-2015, 05:10 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - SunsetBengal - 12-14-2015, 06:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-14-2015, 06:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 12-14-2015, 07:15 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jfkbengals - 12-14-2015, 07:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-14-2015, 08:50 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 01:09 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Aquapod770 - 12-15-2015, 01:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 01:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TGISunday - 12-15-2015, 03:15 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 03:42 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - reuben.ahmed - 12-15-2015, 01:14 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 01:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 12-15-2015, 01:39 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - reuben.ahmed - 12-15-2015, 04:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 04:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - wolfkaosaun - 12-15-2015, 04:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - reuben.ahmed - 12-15-2015, 04:44 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 12-15-2015, 08:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 04:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-11-2016, 11:33 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-11-2016, 02:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-11-2016, 07:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 03-11-2016, 08:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 03-12-2016, 11:01 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 12-15-2015, 01:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - M.W. - 12-15-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Murdock2420 - 12-15-2015, 02:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - sonofstat - 12-15-2015, 02:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 03:43 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PApinhead - 12-15-2015, 04:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 04:55 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 05:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 05:16 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-15-2015, 05:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Marlon23 - 12-15-2015, 05:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 05:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Joelist - 12-15-2015, 03:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - wolfkaosaun - 12-15-2015, 04:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 12-15-2015, 07:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Beaker - 12-15-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 12-15-2015, 09:01 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Fresno B - 12-15-2015, 09:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PApinhead - 12-15-2015, 10:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 12:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-16-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-15-2015, 09:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Fresno B - 12-15-2015, 09:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 12-15-2015, 09:58 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 10:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-15-2015, 10:27 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 10:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-15-2015, 10:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-15-2015, 10:51 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 12:43 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 12-16-2015, 02:00 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 12:30 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 06:53 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 06:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BigPapaKain - 12-15-2015, 11:48 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - bfine32 - 12-16-2015, 01:57 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 02:19 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - JonasNJ - 12-16-2015, 12:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 07:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-16-2015, 09:32 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 09:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 12-16-2015, 10:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 12-17-2015, 01:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 12-16-2015, 07:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-16-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jeremydc - 12-17-2015, 07:18 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Crowe - 03-11-2016, 02:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - GreenCornBengal - 03-11-2016, 02:20 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 03-11-2016, 03:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 03-11-2016, 05:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - XenoMorph - 03-11-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bengal Dude - 03-11-2016, 05:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - grampahol - 03-11-2016, 06:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - HarleyDog - 03-12-2016, 09:48 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-12-2016, 10:10 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Atomic Orange - 03-11-2016, 07:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - magikod - 03-11-2016, 07:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-11-2016, 07:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-13-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-13-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Butchie Tiger - 03-11-2016, 11:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-13-2016, 10:59 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jason - 03-13-2016, 07:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-14-2016, 01:47 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 03:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-14-2016, 04:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-14-2016, 04:58 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-14-2016, 11:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 11:47 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-15-2016, 12:13 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-15-2016, 01:10 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-15-2016, 04:41 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-15-2016, 11:45 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 03-15-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-15-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - OrlandoBengal - 03-15-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-15-2016, 07:27 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 09:54 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 02:00 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 05:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 05:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 01:44 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-15-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-14-2016, 11:00 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalChris - 03-12-2016, 02:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - phil413 - 03-12-2016, 03:07 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 11:13 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-12-2016, 10:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Nately120 - 03-13-2016, 02:17 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-13-2016, 02:45 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - BengalsRocker - 03-13-2016, 12:20 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Westwood Bengal - 03-13-2016, 01:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Synric - 03-13-2016, 01:34 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-13-2016, 02:52 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Synric - 03-14-2016, 01:41 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Synric - 03-14-2016, 08:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jfkbengals - 03-13-2016, 02:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-14-2016, 02:34 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-14-2016, 10:28 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - TheLeonardLeap - 03-14-2016, 10:54 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-13-2016, 02:49 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - J24 - 03-14-2016, 07:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - RoyleRedlegs - 03-14-2016, 07:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-15-2016, 04:48 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-15-2016, 05:11 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 02:07 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 04:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 05:18 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 11:03 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 12:25 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 01:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 01:52 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 02:30 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:37 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:28 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 02:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 02:33 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-17-2016, 02:36 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-17-2016, 01:39 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-16-2016, 01:40 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Wyche'sWarrior - 03-16-2016, 09:49 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - GreenCornBengal - 03-16-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-16-2016, 04:21 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Se ky bengal - 03-16-2016, 07:24 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Garrus - 03-17-2016, 02:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - CageTheBengal - 03-20-2016, 01:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - jfkbengals - 03-20-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-20-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - CageTheBengal - 03-20-2016, 02:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Bilbo Saggins - 03-21-2016, 01:36 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - CageTheBengal - 03-21-2016, 10:23 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - t3r3e3 - 03-20-2016, 11:38 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 11:16 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Nately120 - 03-20-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 11:11 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:06 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 01:14 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 01:54 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:19 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 01:13 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 01:57 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 10:03 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-22-2016, 06:46 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 12:26 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - PDub80 - 03-21-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - fredtoast - 03-21-2016, 01:59 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Garrus - 03-21-2016, 11:32 AM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - Atomic Orange - 03-22-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: Thoughts on Dre K ? - zygrot24 - 03-22-2016, 07:15 PM

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