Democrats losing all credibility in denial of overwhelming evidence..

[Dill]

(03-29-2024, 10:12 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Are the Democrats really not working to subvert democracy into their favor?  I mean pulling out mail in voting for the 2020 election has all the earmarks of subversive action intended to gain an edge. I find it very interesting the only the Democratic party in the US felt the need to muddy electoral waters with mail in voting requiring no ID to gain said ballot of course, under the guise of pandemic safety of course, while the rest of the developed nations in the world seem to have taken mail in voting off the table as an option for the most part.

https://heartland.org/opinion/most-developed-countries-have-banned-mass-mail-in-voting-the-united-states-must-do-the-same/

They don't seem to be.  But I appreciate the question. Much of the mail-in ballot part has been well answered.

Since 1865 there has been quite a bit of back and forth between liberals and conservatives on voting rights and voting laws.

Let's just talk about what's happened since 1965, when the Voting Rights Act went into force.

Seems to me the Dems are always trying to expand voting rights and the Repubs are always trying to restrict them, often under the guise of "election integrity."

Voter ID laws were part of the latter. In Texas for example, a handgun license counts, but not a college ID, making it hard for out of staters ("liberal" college students) residing in Texas to vote there. In many "deep South" states people who'd voted for decades suddenly ran into problems when they were required to have an ID and then a birth certificate to get that ID. My mother-in-law, born on the Flathead Reservation, had no birth certificate. Many in her generation, born on homesteads, did not. Same for many rural (Black) southerners from that era.

As someone who used to live on an Indian reservation, I can react to the ND voter ID requirement that made "residential address" necessary. In Crow Agency, where I lived, there were no street names or addresses. I don't recall them in any reservation town in Southeastern MT, where Native Americans mostly voted Dem--as in North Dakota.  Anyway, the ND law would have sliced off a fraction of Dem votes--way more damage than repaired by an occasional fraudulent vote. And it was prompted by a Dem senate win by a margin of 3,000 votes. Many voter id laws arise like this, to gain an advantage by solving a non-existent fraud problem.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/us/politics/north-dakota-voter-identification-registration.html

A North Carolina ID law was voided as discriminatory when Dems controlled their Supreme Court, then restored when GOP were in the majority.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/north-carolina-high-court-rejects-voter-identification-law-electoral-map-2022-12-16/

When Shelby vs Holder eviscerated the Voting Rights Act in 2013, it was followed by a wave of changes in voter laws and redistricting for GOP advantage.
https://www.propublica.org/article/voting-rights-by-state-map.

I could continue discussing how, for the 2020 elections, many Republican states (e.g., Texas) suddenly reduced the number of sites for ballot drop off boxes. 
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/13/texas-election-ballot-drop-off/  Georgia did that recently too. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/27/1112487312/georgia-voting-law-ballot-drop-box-access.

So to conclude--I think that creating lists of fake electors and sending crowd to the Capitol to menace Mike Pence is definitely working to subvert democracy,
but it's not clear to me how expanding voting access does that.