How about AJ McCarron

[BigSeph]

(01-17-2016, 08:49 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: The fact your McCarron love is so hard that you have to specifically make a point that his first 11 straight possessions totaled to 13-for-27, 118 yards, 1 INT, 3 Fumbles, isn't terrible (but merely "bad") shows how little you're basing any of your McCarron conversations in reality.

Note that is 11 possessions out of a whopping 14 total. 10 out of 12 if you want to take out the 2nd quarter kneel and the 4th quarter 1 play Hill fumble. Which would be 83.3% of the drives.

That's what, a 45 QB Rating for the first 83.3% of the team's offensive drives? How is that not both terrible, and the vast majority? That checks both boxes.

You are including drives on which he was not terrible.

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1. Cincinnati Bengals at 13:29
2. 1-10-CIN 36(13:29) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron pass short right to 18-A.Green to CIN 40 for 4 yards (22-W.Gay).
3. 2-6-CIN 40(12:55) 32-J.Hill left guard to CIN 40 for no gain (50-R.Shazier).
4. 3-6-CIN 40(12:20) (Shotgun) PENALTY on CIN-77-A.Whitworth, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CIN 40 - No Play.
5. 3-11-CIN 35(12:00) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron pass short right to 85-T.Eifert to CIN 44 for 9 yards (50-R.Shazier; 95-J.Jones).
6. 4-2-CIN 44(11:17) 10-K.Huber punts 43 yards to PIT 13, Center-46-C.Harris. 84-A.Brown to PIT 19 for 6 yards (47-P.Dawson).
   

Is this "terrible?"  2-2 for 13 yards and no first down because Whit had a false start?

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1. Cincinnati Bengals at 08:14
2. 1-10-CIN 29(8:14) 32-J.Hill right tackle to CIN 28 for -1 yards (55-A.Moats; 92-J.Harrison).
3. 2-11-CIN 28(7:51) 5-A.McCarron pass short left to 82-M.Jones ran ob at CIN 41 for 13 yards.[/url]
4. 1-10-CIN 41(7:18) PENALTY on CIN-77-A.Whitworth, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CIN 41 - No Play.
5. 1-15-CIN 36(6:56) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron pass short left to 18-A.Green to CIN 43 for 7 yards (50-R.Shazier). PENALTY on PIT-92-J.Harrison, Defensive Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at CIN 36 - No Play.
6. 1-10-CIN 41(6:43) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron pass incomplete short left. [Thrown Away]
7. 2-10-CIN 41(6:38) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron sacked at CIN 39 for -2 yards (92-J.Harrison).
8. 3-12-CIN 39(5:56) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron pass short right to 85-T.Eifert to PIT 45 for 16 yards (22-W.Gay; 91-S.Tuitt).[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2016010901/2015/POST18/steelers@bengals#contentId=0ap3000000620080]
9. 1-10-PIT 45(5:16) (Shotgun) 32-J.Hill right end to PIT 46 for -1 yards (50-R.Shazier).
10. 2-11-PIT 46(4:41) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron pass short right to 85-T.Eifert to PIT 38 for 8 yards (41-A.Blake).
11. 3-3-PIT 38(3:58) (Shotgun) 5-A.McCarron pass incomplete short right to 85-T.Eifert (21-R.Golden).
12. 4-3-PIT 38(3:53) 10-K.Huber punts 32 yards to PIT 6, Center-46-C.Harris, downed by CIN-19-B.Tate.
    

Is this "terrible?"  4-6 for 44 yards, sacked once, but drove the team from the Cincy 29 to the Pitt 38?

You are attempting to include drives and possessions on which he wasn't "terrible" and lump it in with the late 2nd/early 3rd quarters when he was admittedly bad.

You can't say someone was "terrible for the vast majority of the game" when you consider 6-8 for 57 yards as "terrible."

Well you could if you're dumb, I guess.