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McCarron hype gaining steam
(06-24-2015, 08:15 AM)djs7685 Wrote: Which position does Andy play on defense?

I'm up for the discussion if you want to discuss the different defenses that Andy has played great against, but let's immediately stop with the bullshit of bringing up that "Andy isn't very good" gets debunked because our defenses stopped elite QBs in the past. Sort of silly, isn't it?

You usually don't win 40 games in 4 years with a terrible QB, but we all know that Andy isn't terrible. The TEAM winning 40 games doesn't automatically make the QB a good one though. I don't think calling Andy bad is fair, but neither is calling him good. I don't think saying "Andy isn't a very good QB" is off by much, especially not off by enough to go off on a tangent bringing up how it's untrue since the defense has sometimes stopped good QBs around the league. That is flat out illogical to come to that conclusion.

But the QB losing 4 playoff games makes him a bad QB..  Ninja
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RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - bonesaw - 06-21-2015, 10:19 AM
RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - OSUfan - 06-21-2015, 11:39 AM
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RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - Luvnit2 - 06-21-2015, 10:41 AM
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RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - SHRacerX - 06-21-2015, 11:00 AM
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RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - djs7685 - 06-21-2015, 01:43 PM
RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - Bryan - 06-21-2015, 01:47 PM
RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - spazz70 - 06-21-2015, 02:00 PM
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RE: McCarron hype gaining steam - PhilHos - 06-21-2015, 03:02 PM
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