06-24-2015, 04:04 PM
(06-24-2015, 12:15 PM)fredtoast Wrote: If I knew than answer then I would be running an NFL team.
What I do know is that we have good coaches and good players. We just don't have elite coaches or many elite players.
The people who claim that we can win by just replacing coaches and QBs always refuse to give specific names of specific QBs or coaches we could bring in that would fix everything. They cry for change, but when you look at the reality of the situation they don't really have any more answers than I do. They refuse to acknowledge that just constantly changing coaches and QBs is not guaranteed to fix anything.
Zimmer was certainly an elite coach. Bratkowski was an elite OC back in the day. Hue is getting recognition for being a good OC after one season, and I've seen numerous people talk about how great Jay Gruden did here. 3 of those 4 coordinators were/became head coaches.
Elite players? Geno Atkins and Adam Jones have been All-Pro players here. Green, Whitworth, and Burfict have been Second Team All Pros. Since 2011, this team has sent 7 different players to the Pro Bowl.
Put this into perspective: Green Bay has had Aaron Rodgers, Charles Woodson, and John Kuhn be All-Pro players since 2011. Denver had Peyotn Manning, Louis Vasquez, and Von Miller as All-Pro players. The Colts had Pat McAfee and Robert Mathis as All-Pro players. The Texans have had J.J. Watt and Duane Brown as All Pro Players. San Diego Chargers have only had Eric Weddle as an All-Pro player.
So I mentioned the those two teams, Colts and Texans. Both only had 2 All-Pro players since 2011 just like the Bengals. bengals had 1 more than the Chargers. The Bengals lost to all 4 of those teams.
So if it's not because they have more elite players, would you say that Gary Kubiak, Chuck Pagano, and Norv Turner are better head coaches than Marvin Lewis?
