06-25-2015, 02:36 PM
(06-24-2015, 10:07 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Idk about Green > Nelson. It's really really close.
I would say Cobb > Jones or Sanu pretty easily. Cobb would be able to be a #1 WR easy at almost any other team.
Green Bay has a really good offensive line. Not too far from ours I would say.
You say we have people like Atkins, but 2012 was the only year he played like himself (13 was injured, and 14 he didn't play all that great). The defensive line was viewed as one of the best in 2012, and part of 2013 when Atkins was healthy, but it it went down drastically when Atkins got hurt (and hasn't came back 100% since). Most of our first round picks in our secondary has been hurt in the playoffs (Hall 2011, 2013 was out and, Newman 2013, 2014 was out). Burfict was playing injured in 2013, and he was out in 2014.
In 2011, and 2012 we didn't have the talent needed to win in the playoffs, and in 2013, and 2014 we had too many injuries to win in the playoffs.
I've never been too high on Cobb, but that's just me.
Yes, we had injuries. But every team has injuries. The Bengals still had a tremendous defense in '13 after losing Atkins and Hall. Heck, the Bengals beat the Chargers and Colts after losing both Atkins and Hall. That's two playoff teams that made it to the divisional round. They beat them without Hall or Atkins. Plus, the secondary wasn't the biggest issue in that game, it was the defensive line. MJ and Dunlap could get nothing done. And the Chargers were without their OT Dunlap starting.
You talk about no Hall or Newman in '13. Yet the Bengals gave up 128 passing yards that game and 1 TD. The team averaged giving up 209 passing yards a game (5th best in NFL), that's around their average.
'11 I can get behind. I didn't expect them to win that game at all. '12 they certainly had a chance to win. Gruden didn't throw to Green until the 2nd half, abandoned the run, couldn't stop the run, and that missed TD to Green. '13 they certainly could have won. The Chiefs backups almost beat the Chargers, you mean to tell me the Bengals starters couldn't? And '14 was due to a ton of injury. No deep threats and constant tight coverage on every receiver. Thankfully, though, the Bengals added Moore and Alford, so that issue won't come up again.
All in all, the Bengals had 2 really good chances to win a playoff game. You can say injuries hindered the Bengals in '13, but they went 5-2 after losing Atkins in the Miami game. So no. I don't believe injuries is why the Bengals lost the '13 game. There were a ton more reasons.
