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(02-26-2025, 09:50 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: [ -> ]You'll go into it, but you won't go into it. 

I think smart people can figure it out that have watched these things.

(02-27-2025, 11:29 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: [ -> ]I think smart people can figure it out that have watched these things.

Then why make it out like you have some super secretive source and you know more than the general public?

The point is, when someone comes on here, and the mothership before, and talks about thier "sources", they can't cite them or be specific...why? It's not like speaking on what you know is going to get someone fired because the Bengals are listening, or Adam Schefter is on here and he's going to tweet about what was said. It's absolutely annoying and stupid when someone thinks they can't talk about what they know because they think someone is going to get in trouble, or the "source" won't tell them anything ever again. 

This board has a handful of people that post regularly. You can say anything you damn well please and it won't go any further than here, because it's just some random internet message board with light traffic. But people want to talk about "sources" and can't talk about it for some super secretive reason and that annoys the shit out of me (and many others i'm sure) because it's dumb as shit. Hell, you/anyone don't even need to name a specfic person. It's not like some big investigation is going to lead back to the "leak". 

Or, someone just wants others to think they know someone 'in the know'. Whatev.

(02-27-2025, 11:29 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: [ -> ]I think smart people can figure it out that have watched these things.

I am no fan of attacking by talking down to others in the forum.

As for Chase, anyone checking multiple times daily for the announcement we have him locked up. Each hour that goes by worries me and I generally never try and worry about things out of my control. 

(02-27-2025, 06:38 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: [ -> ]Then why make it out like you have some super secretive source and you know more than the general public?

The point is, when someone comes on here, and the mothership before, and talks about thier "sources", they can't cite them or be specific...why? It's not like speaking on what you know is going to get someone fired because the Bengals are listening, or Adam Schefter is on here and he's going to tweet about what was said. It's absolutely annoying and stupid when someone thinks they can't talk about what they know because they think someone is going to get in trouble, or the "source" won't tell them anything ever again. 

This board has a handful of people that post regularly. You can say anything you damn well please and it won't go any further than here, because it's just some random internet message board with light traffic. But people want to talk about "sources" and can't talk about it for some super secretive reason and that annoys the shit out of me (and many others i'm sure) because it's dumb as shit. Hell, you/anyone don't even need to name a specfic person. It's not like some big investigation is going to lead back to the "leak". 

Or, someone just wants others to think they know someone 'in the know'. Whatev.

.... Aaaaaaaaannnndddd literally no one believes it anyway.

(02-27-2025, 06:38 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: [ -> ]Then why make it out like you have some super secretive source and you know more than the general public?

The point is, when someone comes on here, and the mothership before, and talks about thier "sources", they can't cite them or be specific...why? It's not like speaking on what you know is going to get someone fired because the Bengals are listening, or Adam Schefter is on here and he's going to tweet about what was said. It's absolutely annoying and stupid when someone thinks they can't talk about what they know because they think someone is going to get in trouble, or the "source" won't tell them anything ever again. 

This board has a handful of people that post regularly. You can say anything you damn well please and it won't go any further than here, because it's just some random internet message board with light traffic. But people want to talk about "sources" and can't talk about it for some super secretive reason and that annoys the shit out of me (and many others i'm sure) because it's dumb as shit. Hell, you/anyone don't even need to name a specfic person. It's not like some big investigation is going to lead back to the "leak". 

Or, someone just wants others to think they know someone 'in the know'. Whatev.

I stand by my comments. A deal was agreed by All parties. The length, the guarantee, the amount. Tobin touched on it. It was not ( though it almost always is) the front office or ownerships fault. Do you think I’d be stupid enough to say Duke told me? Or Zac? Or Katie? Or Lou Or Trump? . 

(02-28-2025, 02:03 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: [ -> ]I stand by my comments. A deal was agreed by All parties. The length, the guarantee, the amount. Tobin touched on it. It was not ( though it almost always is) the front office or ownerships fault. Do you think I’d be stupid enough to say Duke told me? Or Zac? Or Katie? Or Lou Or Trump? . 

Someone standing by their comment doesn't mean anything to me.

If Duke had personally told you exactly what happened, step by step, what would make it stupid to comment on an internet message board such as this one?

Anyway...it's pretty simple to understand. Numbers were agreed upon. That's where Duke comes off saying "they changed their mind". Chase's side liked the numbers but didn't like the structure so they decided not to sign on the dotted line. 

Both sides can be technically "right" at the same time.

Just agreeing to numbers doesn't mean you agree to the contract. There's numbers and then there's how those numbers are distributed. The Bengals saying that Chase's camp "changed their mind" is disingenuous and allows them to believe they're dealing in good faith. 

Technically, they're right. In reality, they're not. 

(02-28-2025, 02:23 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: [ -> ]Someone standing by their comment doesn't mean anything to me.

If Duke had personally told you exactly what happened, step by step, what would make it stupid to comment on an internet message board such as this one?

If Duke hasn’t said it publicly then they don’t want it out there and their name attached whether it’s at a coffee shop, Twitter, or anywhere. 

I like to say there are 3 sides to a story, your side, my side, and the truth. That is probably the case with anything Duke and Zachary say.

(02-28-2025, 08:48 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: [ -> ]If Duke hasn’t said it publicly then they don’t want it out there and their name attached whether it’s at a coffee shop, Twitter, or anywhere. 

That's not the point.

You come on here saying you know the scoop but you're not gonna get into it. Implying you have an inside source but 'you can't talk about it'. 

How about...you stop doing that. 

Or, simply spill what you know. No one and i mean no one, wants to hear that you know more but can't talk about it. That's bullshit. As i said, this is a message board with a smallish bunch of known, loyal posters. This isn't twitter, this isn't public and no one will get in trouble if you attatch words to a specific person.

(02-28-2025, 11:28 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: [ -> ]That's not the point.

You come on here saying you know the scoop but you're not gonna get into it. Implying you have an inside source but 'you can't talk about it'. 

How about...you stop doing that. 

Or, simply spill what you know. No one and i mean no one, wants to hear that you know more but can't talk about it. That's bullshit. As i said, this is a message board with a smallish bunch of known, loyal posters. This isn't twitter, this isn't public and no one will get in trouble if you attatch words to a specific person.

Look I cane on here to share something I am confident to be true. The Front Office because of historical reasons has a poor reputation with dealing with second contracts. They’ve earned it. I’ve criticized them that they could have saved money making Chase the highest WR last year. I learned that all parties agreed to everything. Everything. Don’t believe me. I dont care. Again Duke said almost the same thing at the combine. Think I’m crazy stupid narcissistic or whatever but what I’m posting is accurate.

(02-28-2025, 12:43 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: [ -> ]Look I cane on here to share something I am confident to be true. The Front Office because of historical reasons has a poor reputation with dealing with second contracts. They’ve earned it. I’ve criticized them that they could have saved money making Chase the highest WR last year. I learned that all parties agreed to everything. Everything. Don’t believe me. I dont care. Again Duke said almost the same thing at the combine. Think I’m crazy stupid narcissistic or whatever but what I’m posting is accurate.

I don't think anything about anyone until they say something and then say, 'i'm not gonna get into it', as if there's something more to the story and you know it because your "source" told you. Then you said "trust me bro it's impossible my source is wrong". 

So, you have a source...that knows more than what was published or said...yet you can't divulge exactly what was said. 

And i'm simply pointing out, that is silly and annoying because nothing will come of it if you state exactly what you were told. Literally nothing. When is the last time you saw Schefter on twitter saying 'a member of thebengalsboard.com has a source that said...". Never. It doesn't happen. You think Duke Tobin hangs out here, for any reason? No. If you know more than the public, there is ZERO reason why you couldn't state what was directly told to you. You don't even have to say who it was from. 

Or, you could simply say 'i believe this' and give some sort of information, without alluding to you having a "source" on the inside. That way, no one rolls their eyes when they read about someone's alleged "source", and trust me; most if not everyone rolls their eyes when they read that, due to past history/trolls. 

"There is still a matter of agreement on what that looks like in the contract structure, but Tobin seems confident the two sides will make it happen."

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/2/25/24373140/jamarr-chase-changed-mind-contract-talks-cincinnati-bengals-duke-tobin

So there's now an issue with structure, that wasn't there last year...or what?

"still". Key word alert.


Check post #47 in this thread...

(02-28-2025, 02:46 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think anything about anyone until they say something and then say, 'i'm not gonna get into it', as if there's something more to the story and you know it because your "source" told you. Then you said "trust me bro it's impossible my source is wrong". 

So, you have a source...that knows more than what was published or said...yet you can't divulge exactly what was said. 

And i'm simply pointing out, that is silly and annoying because nothing will come of it if you state exactly what you were told. Literally nothing. When is the last time you saw Schefter on twitter saying 'a member of thebengalsboard.com has a source that said...". Never. It doesn't happen. You think Duke Tobin hangs out here, for any reason? No. If you know more than the public, there is ZERO reason why you couldn't state what was directly told to you. You don't even have to say who it was from. 

Or, you could simply say 'i believe this' and give some sort of information, without alluding to you having a "source" on the inside. That way, no one rolls their eyes when they read about someone's alleged "source", and trust me; most if not everyone rolls their eyes when they read that, due to past history/trolls. 

Well each to their own experiences. I leaked some info that infuriated a HOF now retired college coach. He got over it as we were acquainted. But I’m sorry you are so triggered. I won’t share anything again that I think my comments will trigger you. You can count on that.

It'll happen when it happens. I don't know why anyone gets so worked up over it.

We have no idea what the snag was last year, but like I said last year. If you love Chase, it was the FO being stupid.

Structure could have been any number of things: Guarantee at signing, guaranteed, years, extension versus tearing up rookie deal.....

I hope whatever it is they get it worked out much quicker than they did last year

(02-28-2025, 03:01 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: [ -> ]Well each to their own experiences. I leaked some info that infuriated a HOF now retired college coach. He got over it as we were acquainted. But I’m sorry you are so triggered. I won’t share anything again that I think my comments will trigger you. You can count on that.

You know, i was going to end my last post with, "now tell me about how, in the past, you leaked a little info that you thought wasn't anything big and it ended up getting you in a lot of hot water, so you're never gonna do that again.", but i thought that was a bit much and too dickish...

Random thought here: I wonder if everyone's sources browse thebengalsboard.com to make sure nothing they say is divulged? Because that would be terrible if any info got out amongst such a small group of football fans on the interwebz that would lead to absolutely nothing. 

(02-28-2025, 03:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: [ -> ]We have no idea what the snag was last year, but like I said last year. If you love Chase, it was the FO being stupid.

Structure could have been any number of things: Guarantee at signing, guaranteed, years, extension versus tearing up rookie deal.....

I hope whatever it is they get it worked out much quicker than they did last year

From everything I read last year, they agreed on the money and the length. It was the guarantees that caused the snafus.

(02-28-2025, 03:09 PM)bfine32 Wrote: [ -> ]We have no idea what the snag was last year, but like I said last year. If you love Chase, it was the FO being stupid.

Structure could have been any number of things: Guarantee at signing, guaranteed, years, extension versus tearing up rookie deal.....

I hope whatever it is they get it worked out much quicker than they did last year

The prevailing belief was that--and it may have been published this way, i dunno, haven't goggled--Chase wanted the guarantees to trigger sooner, rather than later which is what the Bengals wanted.