(03-22-2021, 10:05 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I did not understand how teams with no cap space were signing players. Now I see the JuJU 4 years voidable deal and understand.

I think those who have used this tactic in the past a lot are the ones this year in cap hell, maybe I am wrong.

But, in 2022 cap will likely go way up, so the Bengals can leverage 2022 and 2023 and be aggressive if needed, and they still have 13 million left after the rookie contracts are paid.

Also, I think Gio and Uzomah are prime players to cut or restructure at a minimum. I have said it many times in other threads, I love for us to go get Ertz for 8.2 million. He is 30 and a stud blocker and receiver when healthy.

i would hate to see some of these teams budget books lol

(03-22-2021, 10:28 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: i would hate to see some of these teams budget books lol

The team who have done and do it seem to be playoff teams:
Steelers
Saints
Packers (Rodgers restructure)
Chiefs
Ravens (look at Zeitler cap hit for 2021)

I am glad we joined the party in 2021. Long term is may be a bad strategy, but in a cash strapped cap year with looming huge cap increases in 2022, it is smart in my opinion to use voidable years to fill more holes this year.

Salaries for players has always seemed bizarre to me. On what planet other than ours does a guy who has no other obvious value to society other than playing football get paid millions despite the fact that a huge part of our society could give a flying fart about the sports in the first place? I mean, fire fighters rush into burning buildings, police often run to the sound of gunfire to protect us and the list can go on and on of people whose jobs are far more essential to our societies than football players and yet they're treated like royalty and our very nation might collapse if they're not paid gazillions..
On the other hand.. Would YOU pay say...$1000 for a ticket to go see Mike Brown or any other team owner do, well, anything? Probably not so it IS the players themselves we pay to watch. The thing is it's a microcosm of a very small segment of society none of us are really privy to other than just watching. If you or I even so much as step foot on a football field during a game we might be immediately arrested and treated like some sort of deviant and maybe treated worse than a rapist or even murderer.. 
I have no problem paying these guys a decent wage, but their minimum wage is blown so far out of proportion to the rest of ours it's ludicrous. We're debating a $15 minimum and having a tough time getting it if we ever do while athletes are often paid so much they can play a single year and never work again the rest of their lives and support their entire families with it including aunts, uncles and third cousins..and all their friends..
Our minimum wage on the other hand can't even buy most of us dinner at a nice restaurant.. If I got a player minimum for a single year I'd feel like I'd died and went to money heaven..I'm looking at a stimulus check of a mere $1400 thinking, "HOLY SH*T! It's the jackpot!" They're looking at millions thinking, "Not enough.." 
Something ain't white in the rice here folks.. To make matters more weird is many of us act AS IF the money they are spending is coming directly from our own pockets.. Spend too much for player X and my kids might starve.. Not pay enough for player Y and they're just being cheap.. Damned if we do and damned if we don't..  The thing is..Player X might have the best season in decades while player Y might get injured and never play again.. 
 I suppose you can say that I just don't get the big picture in the grand scheme of things and for that I'll be forever grateful..

(03-20-2021, 09:04 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Voidable years are a helluva drug.

People forget we leave a big pad to sign our own players at the end of the year to long term deals like Jessie Bates and/or maybe Jonah.   

(03-23-2021, 09:45 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The team who have done and do it seem to be playoff teams:
Steelers
Saints
Packers (Rodgers restructure)
Chiefs
Ravens (look at Zeitler cap hit for 2021)

I am glad we joined the party in 2021. Long term is may be a bad strategy, but in a cash strapped cap year with looming huge cap increases in 2022, it is smart in my opinion to use voidable years to fill more holes this year.

no reason to push money to future years though if your not using all the money you have this year.

(03-23-2021, 11:09 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: no reason to push money to future years though if your not using all the money you have this year.

Who says they are done signing 2021 FA's or players who are cut?

FA and league year for trades just started last week.