(11-09-2021, 10:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll take your word for it, but 4700 yards and 35 TDs is pretty good. 

It is. But only completing 60% of your passes for a 84.5 rating with only 21 passing TD’s to 17 INT’s wasn’t that great. Not top 5 anyway.

(11-09-2021, 10:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll take your word for it, but 4700 yards and 35 TDs is pretty good. 

Oh, it's good. It just doesn't relate to impossible expectations and their longevity, from the beginning of year one. Cam put up the total yards and touchdowns that top 5 QBs put up by passing alone, his first couple years. He also threw 29 interceptions in his first two years. 

I'm speaking against the unrealistic expectations of Burrow coming in throwing for 4,000+ yds, 30+ tds and <10 ints every year.

(11-09-2021, 10:43 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: It is. But only completing 60% of your passes for a 84.5 rating with only 21 passing TD’s to 17 INT’s wasn’t that great. Not top 5 anyway.

I guess that's true if you think a QB's only job is to pass. 

(11-09-2021, 10:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I guess that's true if you think a QB's only job is to pass. 

Even with his rushing stats he wasn’t quite top 5.

Brees - 5476 yds 46 TD
Brady - 5235 yds 39 TD
Stafford - 5038 yds 41 TD
Eli - 4933 yds 29 TD
Rodgers - 4643 yds 45 TD (+ 257 rushing yds & 3 TD)

Cam had a very good rookie season, but rfaulk is right, it’s extremely rare for a QB to come in and be a top 5 QB right off the bat. Especially a #1OA that went to a team that earned that draft spot.

(11-09-2021, 10:03 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: No one ever has. 

Joe Namath.

3rd in passer rating
4th in pass tds
6th in pass yards.

(11-10-2021, 12:32 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Joe Namath.

3rd in passer rating
4th in pass tds
6th in pass yards.

*in the AFL

Add in the NFL and Namath was, at best, middle of the pack. 68.7 passer rating. In years 2 and 3 he threw 27 and 28 ints. 

(11-09-2021, 10:12 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Maybe an opening drive score and going up 7 instead of down 7 makes them comfortable and gives them more confidence to be more aggressive and not play tentative.

Nothing's for sure but it seems like a likely possibility.

Opinion, and...opinion.  Here's a thought.  Accept the fact that we lost, and get over it.  We have way, way bigger problems than that one play.  And I leave you to continue this debate with Mr. Faulk.  Yo Adrian, get in here!