(03-14-2022, 04:15 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'm taking neither. It doesn't have to be an either-or or the lesser-of-two-bad-contracts.

You already have the 10th highest paid DE, 11th highest paid DT, and 19th highest paid DE on the DL.

What's your point? 

Do we not want a good DL? Did you see what the Rams did to us in the SB? 

Will Bengals resign Spain and then have him and Carman battle out LG?

This deal is getting some good grades out there. According to Walter Football:

"The Bengals have to be laughing at the Bears. Chicago signed Larry Ogunjobi to a 3-year, $40.5 million deal with $26 million guaranteed. Cincinnati retained a superior player at the same position for $10 million less overall and $11 million less guaranteed.

Not only is Hill better than Ogunjobi; he's a couple of years younger as well. I think this is a slight overpay, but compared to Ogunjobi's contract, it's a huge bargain."

Link: https://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php

Well Hill and Reader absolutely stuffed the run in the playoffs. I really think Hill is a huge diamond in the rough. I think he’s awfully good when you look at his all around performance. As far as the playoffs he proved a plenty.

(03-14-2022, 04:18 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Will Bengals resign Spain and then have him and Carman battle out LG?

I’d suspect so. I think they keep Hopkins. That gives them a hell of a position group with ridiculous versatility which is so important.

(03-14-2022, 04:21 PM)Bengalion Wrote: This deal is getting some good grades out there. According to Walter Football:

"The Bengals have to be laughing at the Bears. Chicago signed Larry Ogunjobi to a 3-year, $40.5 million deal with $26 million guaranteed. Cincinnati retained a superior player at the same position for $10 million less overall and $11 million less guaranteed.

Not only is Hill better than Ogunjobi; he's a couple of years younger as well. I think this is a slight overpay, but compared to Ogunjobi's contract, it's a huge bargain."

Link: https://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php

Yeah, it might be a slight overpay for BJ, we don't know that. Could be a bargain if he continues to grow as a pass rusher.

(03-14-2022, 04:21 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Well Hill and Reader absolutely stuffed the run in the playoffs. I really think Hill is a huge diamond in the rough. I think he’s awfully good when you look at his all around performance. As far as the playoffs he proved a plenty.

No doubt, Reader and Hill owned Brian Allen one of the best run blocking Centers in the league in the SB too.

Needed that signing , glad to see

(03-14-2022, 04:09 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I hope so, but this means we still need to bring back or replace Spain.

In addition to replacing Reiff. This could be a very different line in 2022.

Not that anyone would be upset by that.

Spain just tweeted a winking emoji. I think he’s coming back.

(03-14-2022, 04:24 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’d suspect so. I think they keep Hopkins. That gives them a hell of a position group with ridiculous versatility which is so important.

Raimann is still your man then...

Personally I cut Hop and add a RT. I don't want a raw rookie, Prince or Fred Johnson starting at RT opening day.

(03-14-2022, 04:24 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’d suspect so. I think they keep Hopkins. That gives them a hell of a position group with ridiculous versatility which is so important.

Honestly, I would totally roll with this line:

Jonah - Karras - Hopkins - Cappa - Collins (or Trent Brown).

But, I'm sure Karras was brought in to play Center. But the versatility is good!

Excellent news

(03-14-2022, 04:21 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Well Hill and Reader absolutely stuffed the run in the playoffs. I really think Hill is a huge diamond in the rough. I think he’s awfully good when you look at his all around performance. As far as the playoffs he proved a plenty.

Agree rather than an overpay I think it is accurate and if he continues to excel it could actually be a win for the Bengals.

(03-14-2022, 04:26 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Spain just tweeted a winking emoji. I think he’s coming back.

Hope so

(03-14-2022, 04:26 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Spain just tweeted a winking emoji. I think he’s coming back.

Which is fine with me, he didn't play well in the postseason but I heard he was hurt. 

Spain played very well when healthy in the regular season.

I was hoping for this. Good 3T against the run with some pass rush ability. I would still like to see them draft another 3T they could rotate on passing downs.

(03-14-2022, 04:27 PM)BengalFanInNJ Wrote: Honestly, I would totally roll with this line:

Jonah - Karras - Hopkins - Cappa - Collins (or Trent Brown).

But, I'm sure Karras was brought in to play Center. But the versatility is good!

I’d rather Williams- Spain/Jackson- Karras- Cappa- Collins/Brown.

(03-14-2022, 04:26 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Spain just tweeted a winking emoji. I think he’s coming back.

I dont care that much for Spain.  He crumbled in the playoffs against good defenses.  Why sign him to a 5 million a year contract if you could sign Connor Williams to a 7 million per year contract.

This is assuming Williams and Spains contracts would be close to PFF prediction.

(03-14-2022, 04:27 PM)thompson19osu Wrote: Agree rather than an overpay I think it is accurate and if he continues to excel it could actually be a win for the Bengals.

Well I’d say there’s an epidemic of overpaying permeating today in the NFL universe.

(03-14-2022, 04:31 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Im dont care that much for Spain.  He crumbled in the playoffs against good defenses.  Why sign him to a 5million a year contract if you could sign Connor Williams to a 7 million per year contract.

True unless it’s a lot less.

(03-14-2022, 04:18 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: What's your point? 

Do we not want a good DL? Did you see what the Rams did to us in the SB? 

Our expensive d-line was largely responsible for absolutely stuffing the Rams run game.

Also making King Henry look like Serf Henry.

(03-14-2022, 04:21 PM)Bengalion Wrote: This deal is getting some good grades out there. According to Walter Football:

"The Bengals have to be laughing at the Bears. Chicago signed Larry Ogunjobi to a 3-year, $40.5 million deal with $26 million guaranteed. Cincinnati retained a superior player at the same position for $10 million less overall and $11 million less guaranteed.

Not only is Hill better than Ogunjobi; he's a couple of years younger as well. I think this is a slight overpay, but compared to Ogunjobi's contract, it's a huge bargain."

Link: https://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php

I don't always agree with Walter, but this is pretty spot on with how I feel.

It miiiight be a slight overpay, but I'm good with that. If he maintains or improves on 2021, it's not an overpay at all.

(03-14-2022, 04:26 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Spain just tweeted a winking emoji. I think he’s coming back.

If that's the case...

LT - Jonah
LG - Spain
C - Karras
RG - Cappa
RT - ?

If we fill RT with a good player, I could roll with that.