Gonna be fun seeing DeShaun and Joe duel it out twice a year.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33538489/deshaun-watson-willing-waive-no-trade-clause-cleveland-browns-sources-say

Probably going to be only once this year. I find it hard to believe he won’t be suspended at least 1/3 of the season.

It's more than 200 miles from Cincy to KC

Watson is a stud, but in my opinion he isn’t the in the top 2. Its still Rodgers, Brady, Burrow, Mahomes, Watson or Wilson. Again, just my useless opinion

Watson is top 10 but who knows how he will play after sitting out for over a year

(03-18-2022, 11:30 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Watson is top 10 but who knows how he will play after sitting out for over a year

That will be longer than that. He’s a top 10 QB.

(03-18-2022, 11:13 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Gonna be fun seeing DeShaun and Joe duel it out twice a year.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33538489/deshaun-watson-willing-waive-no-trade-clause-cleveland-browns-sources-say

Fred I hope you cleaned your bong tonight

Aaron Rodgers (Might knock him down a peg or 2 if they don't get him some WR help)
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Tom Brady
Joe Burrow
Deshaun Watson
Dak Prescott
Russell Wilson
Matthew Stafford
Lamar Jackson
Justin Herbert
Derek Carr
Kirk Cousins
Kyler Murray
Matt Ryan
Ryan Tannenhill
Carson Wentz
Jimmy Garappolo
Mac Jones
Tua Tagovailova
Jameis Winston
Jared Goff
Jalen Hurts
Daniel Jones
Sam Darnold
Davis Mills
Zach Wilson
Justin Fields
Mitchell Trubisky
Trevor Lawrence
Drew Lock
Colts QB?

Tampa and Green Bay are way further apart than 200 miles.

(03-18-2022, 11:30 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Watson is top 10 but who knows how he will play after sitting out for over a year

Yep. For me.

1) Brady (still) 
2) Mahomes 
3) Rodgers (another PO choke) 
4) Burrow (let's what he can do with blocking) 
5) Allen 
6) Wilson 
7) Stafford 
8) Jackson 
9) Watson  

Feel like I am forgetting someone big. Herbert? 

(03-18-2022, 11:13 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Gonna be fun seeing DeShaun and Joe duel it out twice a year.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33538489/deshaun-watson-willing-waive-no-trade-clause-cleveland-browns-sources-say

The next three years will be intense but Cleveland is losing 3 1st round picks, a 3rd and a 4th. Bengals as of now have all that. Cleveland just spent 230 million too. Tapped out in draft picks and cap space. Won’t hurt now, will hurt in the out years.

(03-19-2022, 11:11 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Tampa and Green Bay are way further apart than 200 miles.

Rodgers is not going to play at an MVP level without Adams.

(03-19-2022, 11:16 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Yep. For me.

1) Brady (still) 
2) Mahomes 
3) Rodgers (another PO choke) 
4) Burrow (let's what he can do with blocking) 
5) Allen 
6) Wilson 
7) Stafford 
8) Jackson 
9) Watson  

Feel like I am forgetting someone big. Herbert? 

Watson should be higher, and Herbert is already better than 6-8 at this point.

(03-19-2022, 11:16 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Feel like I am forgetting someone big. Herbert? 

Yes. Herbert is very big.

(03-19-2022, 12:06 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: Aaron Rodgers (Might knock him down a peg or 2 if they don't get him some WR help)
Patrick Mahomes
Josh Allen
Tom Brady
Joe Burrow
Deshaun Watson
Dak Prescott
Russell Wilson
Matthew Stafford
Lamar Jackson
Justin Herbert
Derek Carr
Kirk Cousins
Kyler Murray
Matt Ryan
Ryan Tannenhill
Carson Wentz
Jimmy Garappolo
Mac Jones
Tua Tagovailova
Jameis Winston
Jared Goff
Jalen Hurts
Daniel Jones
Sam Darnold
Davis Mills
Zach Wilson
Justin Fields
Mitchell Trubisky
Trevor Lawrence
Drew Lock
Colts QB?

You left out the Red Rifle. 

(03-19-2022, 11:27 AM)BengalRed Wrote: You left out the Red Rifle. 

Oh I just did projected potential starters. He’s a FA at the moment and Fields is who I imagine would start for Chicago. Current Dalton woukd probably fall in that Hurts, Darnold area.

(03-19-2022, 11:21 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Rodgers is not going to play at an MVP level without Adams.

You and i seem to agree on a lot,  But i think Rodgers made Adams look good.  We all know Brady has never had the best WR's and look what hes done throughout his whole career.  Had brady had the WR duo Manning had in Indy, Brady would have 10 SB rings.   I think Adams struggles in LV with Carr.  

(03-19-2022, 12:16 PM)Cosmokramer Wrote: You and i seem to agree on a lot,  But i think Rodgers made Adams look good.  We all know Brady has never had the best WR's and look what hes done throughout his whole career.  Had brady had the WR duo Manning had in Indy, Brady would have 10 SB rings.   I think Adams struggles in LV with Carr.  

I don’t think he’ll live up to his massive contract but him and Carr played together in college so I predict he’ll be pretty good. Also more talent running around him to take off some pressure.

(03-19-2022, 12:19 PM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: I don’t think he’ll live up to his massive contract but him and Carr played together in college so I predict he’ll be pretty good. Also more talent running around him to take off some pressure.

Very true,  and Carr isnt bad,  hes a pretty good QB, i think hes alot like Carson Palmer.  I know Adams is a great WR, but Rodgers makes passes no other human can, i mean the guy rarely throws interceptions.  I just think Adams benefitted a lot from Rodgers accuracy, i think with Carr is he is gonna have to make a lot of ESPN worthy catches 

Just to join in on the discussion of best QBs, here are the QBs who played last season. These guys are ranked by their EPA per attempt, the top advanced metric for QBs.



There are some real oddities, like Jimmy G. over Burrow but I think that is because of sacks. Just a reminder, EPA is just giving the expected points value from a play. So, with sacks, it isn't assigning the blame to Burrow, it is just saying "when Burrow dropped back to pass, this was the average expected points value". 

When Deshaun Watson last played, he finished the season #1 overall in these rankings.