(01-20-2023, 11:05 AM)Billsfan412 Wrote: Look at the second angle

https://twitter.com/HoodieRamey/status/1612650831769116672?s=19

He could of easily just went down. His momentum was stopped. But decided to restart his momentum and keep rolling into his leg

Right and he throws his legs up not to avoid tripping Josh, no, he's clearly trying to kick Josh in the nuts, too. Right?

(01-20-2023, 11:05 AM)Billsfan412 Wrote: Look at the second angle

https://twitter.com/HoodieRamey/status/1612650831769116672?s=19

He could of easily just went down. His momentum was stopped. But decided to restart his momentum and keep rolling into his leg

Pointless to argue this with you. You have your opinion and we have ours which is clearly correct in that Trey was trying to avoid landing on the broken wrist he’s been playing with. Allen wasn’t injured, no flag, no fine, a non-issue.

(01-20-2023, 11:30 AM)Fullrock Wrote: Pointless to argue this with you. You have your opinion and we have ours which is clearly correct in that Trey was trying to avoid landing on the broken wrist he’s been playing with. Allen wasn’t injured, no flag, no fine, a non-issue.

Ours isn't an opinion: a fact is a fact.

(01-19-2023, 08:04 PM)Billsfan412 Wrote: So josh Allen can take bulletin board material from this morning espn get up that every panelist was ask who would you rather have Josh or Joe and everyone said Joe? 

Sure. Why not? It's the same thing. 

(01-20-2023, 11:18 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: This is actually cool....I love watching Kay squirm as he says those things and she is visibly disturbed.  She even says how she isn't being totally objective because she loves this team (we love you, too, Kay!) but she tries to point out how it is at least similar (though in reality, it is better) than the line that took them to the Super Bowl last year.  

Should have lost to the Ravens is such a pile of shit.  The Bengals are 4-1 in the last 5 playoff games (including the Super Bowl) and EVERY SINGLE GAME came down to the last play.  Joe thrives in those moments, defenses tend to grip a little and there is no way that Ravens game is over if the Ratbirds go up 7 points WITH 11 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME.

Let's look at the offensive line by position in terms of replacement:  

RT:  Collins vs. Adeniji.  I would imagine Adeniji will stay at RT and Prince will be the first OT off the bench with Carman at LT (at least that is what I'm hearing).  Adeniji in one full game at RT (not his natural LT position) against the #1 defense in the league since acquiring Smith, scored a 39.2 in pass blocking.  That is only 5 points below Collins' year long average at pass blocking.  Sure, the run blocking grades aren't even close, but pass blocking is more important to get this offense going.  Especially as an OT.  The final week of the season, Adenii had a 66 in pass blocking against the Ravens.  Bottom line:  It isn't the disaster most are making it out to be.

LT:  Jonah had averaged an overall grade of 60, with a 51 in run blocking and a 66 in pass blocking.   In 30 snaps against the Ravens, he was a dismal 41.3 in pass blocking.  Carman was a 49.3 in his 18 pass blocking snaps.  To be fair, the offense really went in to a shell with nothing but quick after Jonah left.  Jonah has been beat all season with quick moves and bull rushes.  At least it seems to me like Carman won't get bull rushed.  Perhaps his better strength could be used to improve the rushing attack?

RG:  Cappa had been the best lineman all season.  With an overall grade of 67.4 and a slightly higher pass blocking grade at 71.  This is, IMHO, the biggest drop off.  Sharping actually scored better than this against the Ravens in week 17, but came back to earth in the playoff game with a 42.0, but really struggled in the run game with a 35.  His pass blocking grade of 51.4 was second to only Volson's 52.  I will give Sharping some slack, though.  Like I always say, PFF's biggest weakness is it doesn't factor in to their grade the strength of the opponent.  Calais Campbell had his best game as a pro in probably three years.  Justin Houston and Oweh finished with Elite grades.  This was, by far, the toughest front they will see all season.  Despite losing their LT, they still found a way to win.  I  think they will have more success against the Bills and if they can have the orginal "no donkeys" idea of a year ago, where there are no glaring weaknesses, they can continue to win games.  Burrow is that good.  

My biggest fear of a donkey is clearly Carman.  He has played so little and still seems to use poor technique.  My hope is they rotate and give Smith some snaps.  I have no idea where this asthma issue cropped up but if a guy isn't able to play, he needs to be replaced.  

Great post. 
During the Ravens game when Jonah went down, I kept saying, "Let's run the ball behind Carman and let him hit somebody since he's basically starting his season now."  The Bengals gave very little effort to run the ball.  I'd like to see a more balanced attack and take some of the pressure off the pass protection.  But let's face it, Mixon has not had a good season and it's probably unrealistic to expect that to change now.  I figured he'd have a huge year with all the OL changes.  

I do hope they give it a go rather than become one dimensional.  I cringe every time I see Burrow drop back just like last season.  Baltimore's run defense is top 3 in the league so I do expect some improvement.  I think the run game is the key to this game and beyond.  It may take a miracle though.

(01-19-2023, 06:04 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Eric Weddle claims the Bengals have ZERO chance of beating the Bills.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-nfl-all-pro-bengals-have-zero-chance-against-bills/ar-AA16wURK?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b646ed97ed1943339ee8b5a2990fb0e6

Former raven spewing vitriol against a former division rival. He’s a fool. 50/50 chance imo.

(01-20-2023, 11:30 AM)Fullrock Wrote: Pointless to argue this with you. You have your opinion and we have ours which is clearly correct in that Trey was trying to avoid landing on the broken wrist he’s been playing with. Allen wasn’t injured, no flag, no fine, a non-issue.

I agree with you that he didn’t do this maliciously. But he was injured. Just not seriously injured. His ankle was on the injury report up til this week

Weddle is still mad that when he first met Burrow, Burrow told him, " I loved watching you growing up". Or in other words, you're old and washed up.


http://https://youtu.be/43Gsh9plvK8

Always thought Weddle was a pretty cold dude. Surprised he said “no chance”. It’s cool he thinks the Bills are going to win and all. Hell, I agree with his take about the Bengals not being able to protect Burrow. That said, we couldn’t protect him last year and got to the Super Bowl and damn near won it.

All good. Only people that matter in the outcome are the ones playing and coaching the game. Bills are a big favorite at home. Bengals O-Line is in shambles, but, all teams have injuries. Bengals defense will need to play a near perfect game. Force a couple of turnovers and keep Allen in the pocket. Won’t be easy.

He did say one thing that was true: "..... They weren't scoring or sniffing points once those linemen went out, and everyone knew it."

HE DID GET IT VERY WRONG WHEN HE SAID: ".....They got zero chance."

verdict: Bengals WIN!

(01-20-2023, 11:05 AM)Billsfan412 Wrote: Look at the second angle

https://twitter.com/HoodieRamey/status/1612650831769116672?s=19

He could of easily just went down. His momentum was stopped. But decided to restart his momentum and keep rolling into his leg

He braced and rolled to protect his *broken wrist*. Then he lifted his legs to avoid contacting the quarterback.

There is no coherent argument that it was a dirty play. Period. Any claim to the contrary demands blindness. Even if you refuse to accept the broken wrist explanation, when he lifted his legs the argument still falls apart. I have even seen “Hendrickson wanted to hit him with his ass”, which is just moronic.

(01-19-2023, 08:25 PM)Billsfan412 Wrote: I see you guys saying that our DL hasn't been good since von got hurt. You guys are discounting  Greg Rousseau, and epenesa. And tell Hendrickson don't try anything dirty like he did week 17. His dive toward josh was 100% intentional.  You gotta make a cheap shot look like an accident like matt milano

I don’t get the Milano reference. Was he accused of doing something dirty?

Agree with you about Rousseau. He seems to be be developing nicely for you guys and will give Carman and Adeniji trouble.

He did say one thing that was true: "..... They weren't scoring or sniffing points once those linemen went out, and everyone knew it."

HE DID GET IT VERY WRONG WHEN HE SAID: ".....They got zero chance."

verdict: Bengals WIN!

(01-20-2023, 12:26 PM)Billsfan412 Wrote: You guys have a history of dirty players

Burfict, pacman,
 Stanley Wilson

Stanley Wilson really, you are going back 40 some years? And Pacman had some off field issues, but he was never really what I would call a dirty player on the field. So you have Burfict as an example. Hendrickson is not a dirty player, he has never been a dirty player, either here or at NO. The assertion that he is dirty is ludicrous.

(01-20-2023, 12:11 PM)Mer Wrote: Weddle is still mad that when he first met Burrow, Burrow told him, " I loved watching you growing up". Or in other words, you're old and washed up.


http://https://youtu.be/43Gsh9plvK8

Probably still mad about this, too…

(01-20-2023, 12:26 PM)Billsfan412 Wrote: You guys have a history of dirty players

Burfict, pacman,
 Stanley Wilson

Go away.

(01-20-2023, 12:44 PM)Billsfan412 Wrote: Really? He was found innocent 

You’re not even good at this.

(01-20-2023, 12:26 PM)Billsfan412 Wrote: You guys have a history of dirty players

Burfict, pacman,
 Stanley Wilson

Cool. None of them are Trey Hendrickson.

I see too many Bills penetrating our sacred threads with their posts... where's our MODS????

(01-20-2023, 12:46 PM)Billsfan412 Wrote: How about woman beater Mixon?? Just gonna dismissed he punches women?

You interested in actually talking any football, or…