(10-26-2023, 09:07 AM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: That’s circumstantial evidence.  Rather than direct proof, it requires that you infer a conclusion.  You can’t conceive of another conclusion because you don’t want to.  But another explanation is in fact possible.  If Roethlisberger’s associates were under the impression that she was actually seeking intimacy (and let’s not forget she was wearing a ‘DTF’ tag), both the escorting and the guarding could have been intended as finding (and protecting) a private place.  Consensual lovers want privacy just as much as rapists, no?  That’s common sense, too, isn’t it? 

I’m not trying to say that’s definitely what happened, only that it’s more possible than you seem to think.  And I’m very confident that you’d be way more willing to consider that possibility had a Bengal player been involved.  

Speaking of that, you’ve had two chances now to deny that you’d support an accused Bengal player in the absence of a conviction, and both times you went back to a whataboutism.  Can we just agree that I’m right about that now? 

I said I would not support a player that obviously raped a woman. 

And it's circumstantial but common sense.

You're saying that every woman that goes out with her friends and wears something stupid like a DTF sticker is willing to be led into a bathroom and had sex with?

If she was so willing and such a slut, why didn't Ben just say "meet me in the bathroom" or have her follow her in with him?

(10-26-2023, 10:28 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: I said I would not support a player that obviously raped a woman. 

And it's circumstantial but common sense.

You're saying that every woman that goes out with her friends and wears something stupid like a DTF sticker is willing to be led into a bathroom and had sex with?

If she was so willing and such a slut, why didn't Ben just say "meet me in the bathroom" or have her follow her in with him?

So you’re saying that if someone had the choice between sex in a public bathroom, or in a private, guarded space, ‘common sense’ would dictate a choice for the former?  

Your sense isn’t as common as you think.  

I’m guessing your ‘common sense’ would work better if we were talking about a Bengal player.  

(10-26-2023, 07:08 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: So you’re saying that if someone had the choice between sex in a public bathroom, or in a private, guarded space, ‘common sense’ would dictate a choice for the former?  

Your sense isn’t as common as you think.  

I’m guessing your ‘common sense’ would work better if we were talking about a Bengal player.  

LOL

This is hilarious!

You're saying that Ben told her "hey, I'm going to go clear out this bathroom and then they're going to lead you back there to have sex with me!"?

THIS MIGHT BE THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN ONE OF YOU SAY, AND THAT'S SAYING A LOT!

(10-26-2023, 08:46 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: LOL

This is hilarious!

You're saying that Ben told her "hey, I'm going to go clear out this bathroom and then they're going to lead you back there to have sex with me!"?

THIS MIGHT BE THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN ONE OF YOU SAY, AND THAT'S SAYING A LOT!

What’s funnier is that if we were talking about a Bengal player you’d be making that suggestion rather than laughing at it.

(10-27-2023, 07:59 AM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: What’s funnier is that if we were talking about a Bengal player you’d be making that suggestion rather than laughing at it.

You keep repeating the same nonsense because you have no defense that you not only defend a rapist but you supported him.

Good for you………

(10-27-2023, 08:29 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: You keep repeating the same nonsense because you have no defense that you not only defend a rapist but you supported him.

Good for you………

You keep repeating the assertion that I defend him.  I don’t, and I never have.  Making the case for uncertainty is not the same as taking a side.  I’m the same way for Ray Lewis. I don't defend him, but I am not 100% sure he did it, either, even though he played for a rival (and I know that's difficult for you to comprehend).  

You, on the other hand, are absolutely certain of the guilt of both, while you have defended Bengals that have been accused (but not convicted) of various things.  There's a pattern there, even if you won't allow yourself to see it.