Cue the circus music...

When I say they don't execute as run blockers well enough. These are VETERANS. pic.twitter.com/dBu0PifeRJ

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They did a good job blocking each other.

Another one...watch Volson on this (67) - knocks Karras over and misses the combo block. Cue more clown music.

So many failed runs with the TE not being able to do anything positive in the run game. Standing up and holding on isn't going to help.

You've got Drew Sample and you keep asking Irv and Wilcox to block. pic.twitter.com/6tiyT45kHT

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(11-27-2023, 04:54 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: They did a good job blocking each other.

One guy took out 3 OL on the same team. That's stuff you just can't teach. 

(11-27-2023, 04:53 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Cue the circus music...

When I say they don't execute as run blockers well enough. These are VETERANS. pic.twitter.com/dBu0PifeRJ

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At least they were under center and weren't in 11 personnel.  That should make folks happy.

(11-27-2023, 05:01 PM)Whatever Wrote: At least they were under center.  That should make folks happy.

Maybe this is why they don't do it as much as those folks want. 

(11-27-2023, 05:01 PM)Whatever Wrote: At least they were under center.  That should make folks happy.

Sad

Jonah just needed to step right chip the 4i and climb to the LB then its just Mixon vs the safety going down the sideline. Ted Tarras did a good job of getting to the mike.

(11-27-2023, 04:53 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Cue the circus music...

When I say they don't execute as run blockers well enough. These are VETERANS. pic.twitter.com/dBu0PifeRJ

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I was thinking more along the lines of Benny Hill lol 

Larry, Curly, and Moe may be an upgrade.... Embarrassing for not only vets, but any oline week 11 of a season. Imagine opposing dline watching Bengals Oline in the meeting room... Comedy hour for sure.

Ring Leader= Frank Pollack leading the pack!


Franks motto? "Create a hole for running backs? You're lucky if my schemes create cracks."

Nope. All on Mixon.




Seriously, I have said before, Mixon is mediocre, but the run blocking of this O-line sometimes is just poop. Conspiracy theory is they must hate Mixon to not block at all. I see often, this year, where defender are in the backfield before the RB gets one step. The shotgun runs don't help, either. Oh, and those dumb ass toss plays Always hate those. No matter the running back.

Im just gonna say this, yes, Pollack has to go, and I think this line has problems. BUT

Mixon 2021: 4.1ypc
Perine 2021: 4.5ypc

Mixon 2022: 3.9ypc
Perine 2022: 4.1ypc

Mixon just isnt good. A better RB would help

(11-27-2023, 07:08 PM)GodFather Wrote: Ring Leader= Frank Pollack leading the pack!


Franks motto? "Create a hole for running backs? You're lucky if my schemes create cracks."

lol

(11-27-2023, 07:29 PM)Destro Wrote: Nope. All on Mixon.



Seriously, I have said before, Mixon is mediocre, but the run blocking of this O-line sometimes is just poop.

Agreed, but also I think mediocre is occasionally too kind for Mixon. This thread shows some real shitshow blocking (I am going to assume it was Jonah's fault, same with simply not blocking Twatt at all. 

This year Mixon has a career low in yards after contact per carry, and the highest yards before contact per carry since 2018. So he's doing less with more, and also took a step back in pass catching.

I think we just replace Pollack, Volson, Jonah, find a new C so you can move Karras to LG where he's better, find a new RB coach, and start completely over in the RB room. Just go scorched earth on the run game and hope something nicer and better grows from the ashes.

(11-27-2023, 07:36 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Im just gonna say this, yes, Pollack has to go, and I think this line has problems. BUT

Mixon 2021: 4.1ypc
Perine 2021: 4.5ypc

Mixon 2022: 3.9ypc
Perine 2022: 4.1ypc

Mixon just isnt good. A better RB would help

Yep - fire Pollack and find a more competent, cheaper RB. I think you need to do both this off-season. 

(11-28-2023, 04:31 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Agreed, but also I think mediocre is occasionally too kind for Mixon. This thread shows some real shitshow blocking (I am going to assume it was Jonah's fault, same with simply not blocking Twatt at all. 

This year Mixon has a career low in yards after contact per carry, and the highest yards before contact per carry since 2018. So he's doing less with more, and also took a step back in pass catching.

I think we just replace Pollack, Volson, Jonah, find a new C so you can move Karras to LG where he's better, find a new RB coach, and start completely over in the RB room. Just go scorched earth on the run game and hope something nicer and better grows from the ashes.

Yeah, Mixon is also getting to run down as a starting RB. Crazy when you look and see he is 27. The league in general has devalued the position. Next year he will get replaced. Problem is, who knows what the 5 people in front of the new RB will be able to do. More of the same will likely give us more of the same. 

(11-27-2023, 04:57 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: One guy took out 3 OL on the same team. That's stuff you just can't teach. 

Pollack can.

(11-28-2023, 09:32 PM)Destro Wrote: Yeah, Mixon is also getting to run down as a starting RB. Crazy when you look and see he is 27. The league in general has devalued the position. Next year he will get replaced. Problem is, who knows what the 5 people in front of the new RB will be able to do. More of the same will likely give us more of the same. 

If he was in Miami? Rockstar!

(11-28-2023, 09:32 PM)Destro Wrote: Yeah, Mixon is also getting to run down as a starting RB. Crazy when you look and see he is 27. The league in general has devalued the position. Next year he will get replaced. Problem is, who knows what the 5 people in front of the new RB will be able to do. More of the same will likely give us more of the same. 

It's a young man's position, just look at the previous league leaders in rushing the last 15 years...

2008 Adrian Peterson (age 23 season)
2009 Chris Johnson (age 24 season)
2010 Arian Foster (age 24 season)
2011 Maurice Jones-Drew (age 26 season)
2012 Adrian Peterson (age 27 season)
2013 LeSean McCoy (age 25 season)
2014 DeMarco Murray (age 26 season)
2015 Adrian Peterson (age 30 season)
2016 Ezekiel Elliott (age 21 season)
2017 Kareem Hunt (age 22 season)
2018 Ezekiel Elliott (age 23 season)
2019 Derrick Henry (age 25 season)
2020 Derrick Henry (age 26 season)
2021 Jonathan Taylor (age 22 season)
2022 Josh Jacobs (age 24 season)

All guys in their age 26 season or younger plus Adrian Peterson.

I think once LBs stopped being 250-260lb goliaths (due to having to cover pass catching TEs and RBs) they became quicker in short term acceleration and the DE position became an athlete position of guys who are running 4.5s, RBs aren't really able to lose a step anymore and still be great because everyone on defense is just too quick and fast now.