Highest PFF Grades from the loss to the Steelers

Offense:
1) Chase, 82.1
2) Volson, 75.2
3) Karras, 71.3
4) Cappa, 70.0
5) Sample, 67.6

Defense:
1) Battle, 76.8
2) Turner, 73.9
3) Murphy, 72.7
4) Carter, 70.2
5) Reader, 67.0

* Nick Scott with a 71.1 Grade but only played 14…

— Der German Tiger? (@DerGermanTiger) November 27, 2023

(11-27-2023, 05:16 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Highest PFF Grades from the loss to the Steelers

Offense:
1) Chase, 82.1
2) Volson, 75.2
3) Karras, 71.3
4) Cappa, 70.0
5) Sample, 67.6

Defense:
1) Battle, 76.8
2) Turner, 73.9
3) Murphy, 72.7
4) Carter, 70.2
5) Reader, 67.0

* Nick Scott with a 71.1 Grade but only played 14…

— Der German Tiger? (@DerGermanTiger) November 27, 2023

Good to see the kids showing well on defense.  If Murphy keeps it up, it looks like a very good draft class.

(11-27-2023, 05:24 PM)Whatever Wrote: Good to see the kids showing well on defense.  If Murphy keeps it up, it looks like a very good draft class.

seems like an outlier game. I mean, Carter and Volson apparently played well

but yea, it'd be nice for Murphy to develop

Good to see the top 3 defenders are our top 3 rookies from the 2023 draft. Now if we can just get our offensive rookies rolling, maybe we can build some momentum going into 2024.

(11-27-2023, 05:30 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Good to see the top 3 defenders are our top 3 rookies from the 2023 draft. Now if we can just get our offensive rookies rolling, maybe we can build some momentum going into 2024.

You have to actually play them…

Charlie Jones played 4 snaps. I believe Yoshi played 14. And Yoshi could have very well of had a deep shot TD had Browning actually seen him.

(11-27-2023, 05:30 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Good to see the top 3 defenders are our top 3 rookies from the 2023 draft. Now if we can just get our offensive rookies rolling, maybe we can build some momentum going into 2024.

We have rookies on offense?

Cordell Volson earned a season-high 77.5 PFF Pass Blocking Grade against Cam Heyward and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Volson was the only Bengals offensive lineman NOT to allow a pressure against the Steelers.

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) November 27, 2023

He had a really good game against Cam last season, too. Kind of a head scratcher.

(11-27-2023, 05:28 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: seems like an outlier game. I mean, Carter and Volson apparently played well

but yea, it'd be nice for Murphy to develop

Carter had the strip, and Murphy played pretty well. I know I saw a couple of bad clips on Volson, so that one is a head scratcher.

(11-27-2023, 05:43 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Cordell Volson earned a season-high 77.5 PFF Pass Blocking Grade against Cam Heyward and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Volson was the only Bengals offensive lineman NOT to allow a pressure against the Steelers.

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) November 27, 2023

He had a really good game against Cam last season, too. Kind of a head scratcher.

Well, that explains his grade then. 

Good to see Murphy make some plays yesterday/

Im starting to wonder if Reader isn't getting washed or if he isn't hurt a bit.

The run defense has been a major problem this year and the guy is 30 years old.

I was all for bringing him back, but maybe it's time to get younger at the position via free agency.

(11-28-2023, 10:07 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Im starting to wonder if Reader isn't getting washed or if he isn't hurt a bit.

The run defense has been a major problem this year and the guy is 30 years old.

I was all for bringing him back, but maybe it's time to get younger at the position via free agency.

And/or the draft.

(11-28-2023, 10:07 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Im starting to wonder if Reader isn't getting washed or if he isn't hurt a bit.

The run defense has been a major problem this year and the guy is 30 years old.

I was all for bringing him back, but maybe it's time to get younger at the position via free agency.

We all know the deal as fans, some guys only have so many years in them to play NFL ball before father time creeps in. I don't know if that is the case with Reader but it wouldn't be surprising if accurate. I've liked having him on the Bengals so it's a bummer if his best days of ball are nearing an end.

(11-27-2023, 05:43 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Cordell Volson earned a season-high 77.5 PFF Pass Blocking Grade against Cam Heyward and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Volson was the only Bengals offensive lineman NOT to allow a pressure against the Steelers.

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) November 27, 2023

He had a really good game against Cam last season, too. Kind of a head scratcher.

(11-27-2023, 05:46 PM)Wyche Wrote: Well, that explains his grade then. 

In the first game of Volson's career, Heyward pretty much ragdolled him, made him look like a Jr. High bench warmer.  I'm sure that Cordell took that to heart and has since made it his mission to have his best days facing Heyward going forward.

(11-28-2023, 10:24 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: In the first game of Volson's career, Heyward pretty much ragdolled him, made him look like a Jr. High bench warmer.  I'm sure that Cordell took that to heart and has since made it his mission to have his best days facing Heyward going forward.

Going forward? Hopefully not. He should be replaced next season

(11-28-2023, 12:42 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Going forward? Hopefully not. He should be replaced next season

Some of you keep saying that, but if the team were not set on him being the starting LG, one would think that Cody Ford or Jackson Carman would have already replaced him by now.  

(11-27-2023, 05:16 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Highest PFF Grades from the loss to the Steelers

Offense:
1) Chase, 82.1
2) Volson, 75.2
3) Karras, 71.3
4) Cappa, 70.0
5) Sample, 67.6

Defense:
1) Battle, 76.8
2) Turner, 73.9
3) Murphy, 72.7
4) Carter, 70.2
5) Reader, 67.0

* Nick Scott with a 71.1 Grade but only played 14…

— Der German Tiger? (@DerGermanTiger) November 27, 2023

I like seeing those grades in the 70's from our inside 3 on the OL. Seems like Cappa and Karras and Volson have had some low games this year. Pretty impressive from Volson considering who he was guarding. 

(11-27-2023, 05:16 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Highest PFF Grades from the loss to the Steelers

Offense:
1) Chase, 82.1
2) Volson, 75.2
3) Karras, 71.3
4) Cappa, 70.0
5) Sample, 67.6

Defense:
1) Battle, 76.8
2) Turner, 73.9
3) Murphy, 72.7
4) Carter, 70.2
5) Reader, 67.0

* Nick Scott with a 71.1 Grade but only played 14…

— Der German Tiger? (@DerGermanTiger) November 27, 2023

Surprised Volson had that good of a grade, he had some pretty embarrassing moments in this game as did Jonah.

Love seeing our rookie's taken in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round coming around and getting some good grades.

Really liked what I saw of DJ Turner and Jordan Battle all season pretty much except a few plays to learn from which is pretty good
for rookies. Myles Murphy is starting to come along and we just need to keep giving him snaps and he could be great some day.

You cannot teach MM's skills, his athleticism is off the charts. If he can get some moves and play disciplined he has just what you 
want in a pass rusher and he is already a good run stopper.

(11-28-2023, 02:45 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Surprised Volson had that good of a grade, he had some pretty embarrassing moments in this game as did Jonah.

Love seeing our rookie's taken in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round coming around and getting some good grades.

Really liked what I saw of DJ Turner and Jordan Battle all season pretty much except a few plays to learn from which is pretty good
for rookies. Myles Murphy is starting to come along and we just need to keep giving him snaps and he could be great some day.

You cannot teach MM's skills, his athleticism is off the charts. If he can get some moves and play disciplined he has just what you 
want in a pass rusher and he is already a good run stopper.

I expect to see steady improvement from Battle and Murphy over time.

They may sneak up on concerned fans and end up being solid players once they physically mature and gain experience.

(11-27-2023, 05:43 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Cordell Volson earned a season-high 77.5 PFF Pass Blocking Grade against Cam Heyward and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Volson was the only Bengals offensive lineman NOT to allow a pressure against the Steelers.

— Willie Lutz (@willie_lutz) November 27, 2023

He (Volson) had a really good game against Cam last season, too. Kind of a head scratcher.

Volson really didn't start "Coming on" until the Tampa (Game 12) last year.  From then on, Volson was one of our best OL.  I think he for one needs to be out there the entire pre-season getting reps so we're not having to wait until the second half of the season for him to start "Coming on."