(03-13-2024, 10:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Where does this "we need" a NT come from? We play a 4-man line. Who has been KC's huge NT during their last few years? San Fran's? We can easily roll w/ 2 3-techs the size of Rankins and Hill.

(03-13-2024, 10:38 PM)BenZoo2 Wrote: Thank you for this common sense post. I’ve been wondering the same thing for months. We play a 4-2-5 as our base. Where is the nt in a four man front?


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KC had 2 NTs that weighed over 325 pounds last season.


Our base defense had Reader at NT, either 2 gap over center or in the 1 hole, and BJ as a 3T. Depending which side BJ was on, the edge opposite would slide in a little to almost a 5T on that side.

(03-13-2024, 10:39 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Heard that about Settle, big dude though, same as Poona.


Poona reminded me of Billings when he was a Longhorn.

poona is like 5'11 310  but good against the run.

(03-13-2024, 10:49 PM)pulses Wrote: poona is like 5'11 310  but good against the run.

Short, but with wide shoulders and strong is what I always remembered of Poona. Surprised he is that light, but that don't matter as 
long as he is good against the run.

(03-13-2024, 10:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Where does this "we need" a NT come from? We play a 4-man line. Who has been KC's huge NT during their last few years? San Fran's? We can easily roll w/ 2 3-techs the size of Rankins and Hill.

Mike Pennel/Derick Nnadi and Javon Hargrave respectively. Even in a 4 man front if you are playing over or under you have a 0/1 technique. Nnadi is actually a FA interestingly and wouldn’t be a bad stop gap to see what we find in the draft.

(03-13-2024, 10:47 PM)casear2727 Wrote: KC had 2 NTs that weighed over 325 pounds last season.


Our base defense had Reader at NT, either 2 gap over center or in the 1 hole, and BJ as a 3T.  Depending which side BJ was on, the edge opposite would slide in a little to almost a 5T on that side.

Who and how much did they play? Feel free to post their stats.

Their starters were Jones and Nnadi.

I suppose if we want a couple big guys that stay on the bench we can find a couple. 

(03-13-2024, 10:47 PM)casear2727 Wrote: KC had 2 NTs that weighed over 325 pounds last season.

Yeah, and Pennel was a beast for KC in this latest Super Bowl run.

(03-13-2024, 10:51 PM)Au165 Wrote: Mike Pennel/Derick Nnadi and Javon Hargrave respectively. Even in a 4 man front if you are playing over or under you have a 0/1 technique. Nnadi is actually a FA interestingly and wouldn’t be a bad stop gap to see what we find in the draft.

Didn't know Nnadi was a Free Agent. Might want to take a look at him if Reader signs with the Lions.

(03-13-2024, 10:51 PM)Au165 Wrote: Mike Pennel/Derick Nnadi and Javon Hargrave respectively. Even in a 4 man front if you are playing over or under you have a 0/1 technique. Nnadi is actually a FA interestingly and wouldn’t be a bad stop gap to see what we find in the draft.

mike Pennei had 4 more total tackles than I did last year and the other 2 are about the same size as Hill. 

(03-13-2024, 10:51 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who and how much did they play? Feel free to post their stats.

Their starters were Jones and Nnadi.

I suppose if we want a couple big guys that stay on the bench we can find a couple. 

Short yardage and goal line only.  The AFC West is the exact opposite of the AFCN, the need isnt really there as much.

(03-13-2024, 10:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: mike Pennei had 4 total tackles last year and the other 2 are about the same size as Hill. 

He took over for Nnadi in the playoffs after he got hurt and was a key player for them. Beyond size Nnadi is an actual nose tackle size or not. The positions aren’t the same, you are asked to anchor and take on double teams which is different then penetrating upfield.

Trenches!!!

I wonder if BJ Hill will get up to 318ish and play more in the A gap this year.

(03-13-2024, 10:55 PM)Synric Wrote: Trenches!!!

I wonder if BJ Hill will get up to 318ish and play more in the A gap this year.

I wonder why BJ just put his house up for sale? 

Pennel was the highest graded IDL on either team in the Super Bowl.

(03-13-2024, 10:57 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I wonder why BJ just put his house up for sale? 

Movin' on up? 

(03-13-2024, 10:57 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I wonder why BJ just put his house up for sale? 

Probably looking to sell it.

(03-13-2024, 11:00 PM)Synric Wrote: Movin' on up? 

Let's hope so...

(03-13-2024, 10:57 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Pennel was the highest graded IDL on either team in the Super Bowl.

That's 1 great game. He played 3 games on the year and had 4 total tackles. KC did just fine without him for some reason.

We play a 4-man line, we don't "need" a huge NT. 

(03-13-2024, 11:01 PM)BengalFanInCanada Wrote: Probably looking to sell it.

He just bought it 2 years ago....

(03-13-2024, 11:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: That's 1 great game. He played 3 games on the year and had 4 total tackles. KC did just fine without him for some reason.

We play a 4-man line, we don't "need" a huge NT. 

Brother, we play the Ravens, Steelers, and Browns twice a year, we need a solid NT.  Come on now. 

(03-13-2024, 10:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I think so as well to a point. But Reader has helped us win some big games being our NT when we needed to stop the run.


Maybe that has been part of our problem in stopping the run, need to use more 5-2 fronts.

In a passing league?


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