It will be interesting to see how Mccarron's start against the Steelers Saturday compares with other QBs who have made their first playoff start with the Bengals

Virgil Carter, 1970........7-20.......64 yds....0 td....1 int.....23.7 passer rating
Ken Anderson, 1973....14-27.....113 yds....0 td....1 int.....47.3
Boomer Esiason, 1988.. 7-19.....108 yds....0 td....0 int.....56.5
Carson Palmer, 2005.... 1-1  ...... 66 yds....0 td....0 int....118.7
Andy dalton, 2011.......27-42......252 yds...0 td....3 int..... 51.4

The bar is so low it is possible that his game will be better than most of these.

(01-07-2016, 05:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It will be interesting to see how Mccarron's start against the Steelers Saturday compares with other QBs who have made their first playoff start with the Bengals

Virgil Carter, 1970........7-20.....64 yds....0 td....1 int.....23.7 passer rating
Ken Anderson, 1973....14-27...113 yds....0 td....1 int.....47.3
Boomer Esiason, 1988.. 7-19...108 yds....0 td....0 int.....56.5
Carson Palmer, 2005.... 1-1  .... 66 yds....0 td....0 int....118.7
Andy dalton, 2011.......27-42....252 yds...0 td....3 int..... 51.4

The bar is so low that it is possible that his game will be better than most of these.

Its gonna be hard to lower the bar. Carson should get an * because it was just 1 pass.

(01-07-2016, 05:22 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Its gonna be hard to lower the bar.   

Yep.  That is a big pile of ugly.

(01-07-2016, 05:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It will be interesting to see how Mccarron's start against the Steelers Saturday compares with other QBs who have made their first playoff start with the Bengals

Virgil Carter, 1970........7-20.......64 yds....0 td....1 int.....23.7 passer rating
Ken Anderson, 1973....14-27.....113 yds....0 td....1 int.....47.3
Boomer Esiason, 1988.. 7-19.....108 yds....0 td....0 int.....56.5
Carson Palmer, 2005.... 1-1  ...... 66 yds....0 td....0 int....118.7
Andy dalton, 2011.......27-42......252 yds...0 td....3 int..... 51.4

The bar is so low it is possible that his game will be better than most of these.

So, starting with a TD pass would be a nice change of scenery... Wow

Andy should have an asterisk as no new QB should be throwing it 42 times in a playoff appearance, regardless of it being their first second or even third.

For a comparison, we're facing one of the better playoff QBs of the last decade on Saturday. And here's how he's fared in the playoffs when talking about attempts and how it impacts the game.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00/gamelog/post/

15 games, 4 of which he threw 40 or more attempts. They lost all of those. But he's 8-1 on games with less than 30 attempts and 10-1 with games of less than 32 attempts.

We've got arguably the best running game and line we've had going into the playoffs. If it can move us forward and AJ or Andy can keep it under 25-30 throws, I think we'll have a very good chance. But if we do what we normally do in the playoffs and throw the **** out of it, I'm going to start drinking early.

Everyone knows CP#9 was in for only one play, but not sure how many know Boomer played the backside of
the '88 season with a separated shoulder.

Great running behind Brooks and a rookie named Ickey propelled us to XXIII - that and a very good defense.

(01-07-2016, 05:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It will be interesting to see how Mccarron's start against the Steelers Saturday compares with other QBs who have made their first playoff start with the Bengals

Virgil Carter, 1970........7-20.......64 yds....0 td....1 int.....23.7 passer rating
Ken Anderson, 1973....14-27.....113 yds....0 td....1 int.....47.3
Boomer Esiason, 1988.. 7-19.....108 yds....0 td....0 int.....56.5
Carson Palmer, 2005.... 1-1  ...... 66 yds....0 td....0 int....118.7
Andy dalton, 2011.......27-42......252 yds...0 td....3 int..... 51.4

The bar is so low it is possible that his game will be better than most of these.

That's just down right frightening. 

Somebody should tack this on Jeremy Hill's locker.  I believe this game is up to him.  AJM can really only take us so far.  Hill has to step up again and carry this team on his back.  We really need a huge game from him and the OL.

(01-07-2016, 06:28 PM)Rattler Wrote: Everyone knows CP#9 was in for only one play, but not sure how many know Boomer played the backside of
the '88 season with a separated shoulder.

Great running behind Brooks and a rookie named Ickey propelled us to XXIII - that and a very good defense.

Shockingly that 7-19 for 108 yard games was Boomers best of the postseason.  His passer rating dropped from 56.5 to 44.6 against the Bills in the Conference Championship (11-20, 94 yds, 1 td, 2 ints) and 46.1 in the Super Bowl (11-25, 144 yds, 0 td, 1 int).

By far the worst postseason run by any Super Bowl QB in history.

Bottom line - don't throw picks and this game should be close.

The Steelers offense doesn't light up the scoreboard against the Bengals.

(01-07-2016, 05:22 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Its gonna be hard to lower the bar.   Carson should get an * because it was just 1 pass.

But Carson's the only one that even remotely looks good!

(01-07-2016, 06:28 PM)Rattler Wrote: Everyone knows CP#9 was in for only one play

Two plays, but who's counting?

In Carson's first playoff game with more than 1 pass attempt, he went 18-36-146-1-1 with a 58.3 passer rating.

I know he didn't start and it wasn't his first playoff game (first with us), but I was curious about Kitna so here are his stats for others:

24-40 (60%), 197 Yards (4.93 Y/A), 1 TD, 2 INT 60.1 RATE

STILL BAD JESUS CHRIST

(01-07-2016, 05:22 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Its gonna be hard to lower the bar.   Carson should get an * because it was just 1 pass.

True that -- but had Carson Palmer not been hurt in that game the Bengals would have probably hung 50 points on the Steelers.  

(01-07-2016, 06:28 PM)Rattler Wrote: Everyone knows CP#9 was in for only one play, but not sure how many know Boomer played the backside of
the '88 season with a separated shoulder.

Great running behind Brooks and a rookie named Ickey propelled us to XXIII - that and a very good defense.

Boomer is also the only one on that list with a W in his first playoff game. I'm looking for AJM to be the second to do that.

(01-07-2016, 07:55 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: In Carson's first playoff game with more than 1 pass attempt, he went 18-36-146-1-1 with a 58.3 passer rating.

I remember how bad he played that game. I was pissed, he was overthrowing open players with high uncatchable passes. He'll light it up this year because he's not wearing the cursed stripes!

Time to change this soon :) to make AJ McCarron the first QB in their first playoff start to throw a TD for Bengals

I saw this stat a couple days ago, and it is downright scary... it would be difficult for McCarron not to exceed the expectations set by his predecessors...

(01-07-2016, 06:30 PM)2MinutesHate Wrote: That's just down right frightening. 

Somebody should tack this on Jeremy Hill's locker.  I believe this game is up to him.  AJM can really only take us so far.  Hill has to step up again and carry this team on his back.  We really need a huge game from him and the OL.

I like that Hill's best run of the season came in Week 17. Hopefully he can build up some momentum just in time for the playoffs.

(01-07-2016, 05:20 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It will be interesting to see how Mccarron's start against the Steelers Saturday compares with other QBs who have made their first playoff start with the Bengals

Virgil Carter, 1970........7-20.......64 yds....0 td....1 int.....23.7 passer rating
Ken Anderson, 1973....14-27.....113 yds....0 td....1 int.....47.3
Boomer Esiason, 1988.. 7-19.....108 yds....0 td....0 int.....56.5
Carson Palmer, 2005.... 1-1  ...... 66 yds....0 td....0 int....118.7
Andy dalton, 2011.......27-42......252 yds...0 td....3 int..... 51.4

The bar is so low it is possible that his game will be better than most of these.

Maybe my memory is failing, but I thought we scored on that 1 Carson playoff pass.

(01-08-2016, 01:23 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Maybe my memory is failing, but I thought we scored on that 1 Carson playoff pass.

Nah...  It was just a big play to Henry... Lost him on that play too.