(08-29-2024, 11:44 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Why didn't they just put Mckinley on the IR to begin with and avoid all the movement if they knew he needed to go there? Weird.

maybe they were waiting for final diagnosis to put him on IR or maybe just miss one or two games instead... the moves did not really matter Williams was very low risk to lose

(08-29-2024, 11:48 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Describes their entire plan at NT tbh.

They don't have a starting quality NT on the roster. They have a really good 3T that they are going to play out of position I guess. 

(08-29-2024, 11:58 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: They don't have a starting quality NT on the roster. They have a really good 3T that they are going to play out of position I guess. 

They  played Hill a good amount  of snaps there last yr and did well It seems that is their plan starting out unless a pickup

What we've learned is that the "several weeks" injury designation is NOT good news.

(08-29-2024, 12:29 PM)jj22 Wrote: What we've learned is that the "several weeks" injury designation is NOT good news.

I guess Mims is likely done for the year, as well?

(08-29-2024, 11:58 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: They don't have a starting quality NT on the roster. They have a really good 3T that they are going to play out of position I guess. 

Did we cut Tufele? He can play NT and so can BJ Hill. Not ideal of course but BJ Hill is a good run stopper and Rankins was a good run stopper
with the Jets when he was asked to stop the run. Honestly just need our DT's to take up blockers and open it up for the other guys to make 
tackles and we could be just fine. I know we will be better in pass rushing situations this year with Rankins for damn sure.

Updated to reflect NT McKinley Jackson to IR, RB Trayveon Williams back to the 53, and the rounding out of the PS with 3 more signings: RB Kendall Milton, G Tashawn Manning, and DE Isaiah Thomas.  


https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-roster-move-x3410

A. Offense: (25)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (3): Moss; C. Brown, Williams
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; Irwin, Burton, C. Jones
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, All, Hudson, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, T. Brown; Mims
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; Lee
OT/OG (2): Ford, Kirkland
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B. Defense: (25)
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Ossai, Henry, Johnson
DT (5): BJ Hill, Rankins; Jenkins; Carter, Tufele
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Bachie, Njongmeta
CB (5): CTB, D. Hill, Hilton; Turner, Newton
S (5): Bell, Stone; Battle, Anderson, Anthony
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C. Special Teams: (3)
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
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D. Injured Lists (6)

1. Reserve/PUP (1)
1. CB DJ Ivey

2. Reserve/Injured (3 of 8 return)
1. Cam Sample, DE/DT
2. Chris Evans, RB 
3. D'Ante Smith, OL
4. Myles Murphy, DE, return designation (1/8)
5. Brad Robbins, P, return designation (2/8)
6. Lance Robinson, CB
7. McKinley Jackson, NT, return designation (3/8)

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E.  Practice Squad (16) (16 max, 6 vets, 10<3 years)


17 if last guy is an INT player. Can Protect 4.
Salary: 2 years or less: $225k, $12,500/wk
3+years: $302.4k-$383.4k; 16,800-$21,300/wk.

1. QB Woodside (Vet #1) 
2. RB Milton
3. WR S. Jackson 
4. WR Pryor
5. WR Burgess
6. TE Grandy
7. OT Cochran 
8. OG Manning
9. C/OG T. Hill (Vet #2)
10. NT/DT D. Davis 
11. NT/DT Rogers
12. DE Thomas
13. LB Heyward
14. CB J. Davis (Vet #3) 
15. CB Brooks 
16. S Jules

(08-29-2024, 11:32 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Looks like Milton is a power back.  Manning could be an interesting prospect, as he spent the entire 2023 season with the Ravens.

I like Milton a lot. I thought maybe he would be drafted by the team

(08-29-2024, 11:55 AM)pally Wrote: because I believe they were limited to 2 players who could be placed on IR yesterday with the return designation

I’m talking about the lack of a real plan from the minute they decided to move on from Reader. A Super Bowl contending team counting on a rookie is not ideal. Especially when their biggest weakness last year was stopping the run.

(08-29-2024, 05:55 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’m talking about the lack of a real plan from the minute they decided to move on from Reader. A Super Bowl contending team counting on a rookie is not ideal. Especially when their biggest weakness last year was stopping the run.

I have been one of the biggest advocates for bringing Reader back. We paid Sample & ADG more than the Lions paid Reader this year. I was VERY upset when we let him walk. 

However, I think the FO/coaches believe that some is the issues with the run D eminated from the safties (Hill, Scott, Battle) not getting the calls right/or communicating it fast enough. They believe that Stone/Bell back there helps fix the issue. 

Kris Jenkins was maybe the best run stopping DT in the draft. And Jackson probably the best NT after Sweat. I like both guys a lot. 

(08-29-2024, 08:22 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: . And Jackson probably the best NT after Sweat. I like both guys a lot. 

Im not sure that will be the case.  He was not very good at double gap.  He is not a true 1 to 1 replacement for Reader skillset wise.  Size-wise maybe, but his game is truly different.  I would challenge you for biggest advocate for DJ, we defitniely agree on that one.

(08-29-2024, 10:20 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Im not sure that will be the case.  He was not very good at double gap.  He is not a true 1 to 1 replacement for Reader skillset wise.  Size-wise maybe, but his game is truly different.  I would challenge you for biggest advocate for DJ, we defitniely agree on that one.

Reader was a top 5 player on the team during our deep playoff runs. I’d argue it was Burrow, Chase, Reader, Hendrickson, Bates. In that order. Losing him could certainly blow up in their faces.

I don't think they intended on losing Reader. I think it was one of those Bell / Perine things. They played their hand by offering the pitiful contract to open negotiations (as they like to do), and then watched another team woo them away. These players always end up saying they "felt wanted" by the other team even thought the Bengals try to match the offer once the negotiations with the new team is nearly done.

I think if they planned on losing Reader, they would have drafted a replacement in 2023. Or at least tried to get a replacement in the building (rather that player would have worked out or not who know).

(08-29-2024, 10:20 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Im not sure that will be the case.  He was not very good at double gap.  He is not a true 1 to 1 replacement for Reader skillset wise.  Size-wise maybe, but his game is truly different.  I would challenge you for biggest advocate for DJ, we defitniely agree on that one.

Agreed on them not being precisely the same guy. 

The FO lost the bet on letting Bates & Bell walk to replace with Hill/Scott/Battle. Thiugh at least Battle played well & they only took one year to fix it. 

Letting Hurst go for Irv Smith was a disaster. Hopefully only a 1 year one with Gesicki & the rooks here. 

We have mot had a good track revord recently replacing some of our better vets. 

Jackson & Jenkins are both hurt after Reader & Tupou left. 

Burton seems immature (shocker) after Boyd left. 

If Murphy was to be the heir to Trey (or Sam) at DE, that is not going well, either.

Mixon is gone as well. 

And both star receivers are out. 

I give this offseason a D.

Pryor called up to the 53.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/9/7/24238487/bengals-kendric-pryor-gameday-roster

Updated at the quarter pole. 


Major updates


1) OT Trent Brown to season ending IR
2) Signed DT Lawrence Guy
3) DE Henry cut, then to PS
4) WR Jackson waived off PS
5) PS elevations: Pryor (Wk1), Davis (Wk3)

https://www.bengals.com/team/transactions/


I think that is all. Correct me if I missed something.

A. Offense: (24)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (3): Moss; C. Brown, Williams
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; Irwin, Burton, C. Jones
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, All, Hudson, McLachlan
OT (2): O. Brown; Mims
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; Lee
OT/OG (2): Ford, Kirkland
----------------

B. Defense: (26)
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Ossai, Henry, Johnson
DT (6): BJ Hill, Rankins; Jenkins; Carter, Tufele, Guy
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Bachie, Njongmeta
CB (5): CTB, D. Hill, Hilton; Turner, Newton
S (5): Bell, Stone; Battle, Anderson, Anthony
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C. Special Teams: (3)
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
--------------

D. Injured Lists (9)

1. Reserve/PUP (1)
1. CB DJ Ivey

2. Reserve/Injured (3 of 8 return)
1. Cam Sample, DE/DT
2. Chris Evans, RB 
3. D'Ante Smith, OL
4. Myles Murphy, DE, return designation (1/8)
5. Brad Robbins, P, return designation (2/8)
6. Lance Robinson, CB
7. McKinley Jackson, NT, return designation (3/8)
8. Trent Brown, OT, Season-end8ng
-------------------

E.  Practice Squad (16) (16 max, 6 vets, 10<3 years)


17 if last guy is an INT player. Can Protect 4.
Salary: 2 years or less: $225k, $12,500/wk
3+years: $302.4k-$383.4k; 16,800-$21,300/wk.

1. QB Woodside (Vet #1) 
2. RB Milton
3. WR Pryor, 1 elevation
4. WR Burgess
5. TE Grandy
6. OT Cochran 
7. OG Manning
8. C/OG T. Hill (Vet #2)
9. NT/DT D. Davis, 1 elevation
10. NT/DT Rogers
11. DE Henry 
12. DE Thomas
13. LB Heyward
14. CB J. Davis (Vet #3) 
15. CB Brooks 
16. S Jules

We have returned P Brad Robbins to the active roster from the Reserve/Injured list.

— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) September 30, 2024

 

(09-30-2024, 02:14 PM)pally Wrote:

We have returned P Brad Robbins to the active roster from the Reserve/Injured list.

— Cincinnati Bengals (@Bengals) September 30, 2024

 

Robbins back to 53 after being on IR. And I forgot to remove Henry from the 53. 


A. Offense: (24)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (3): Moss; C. Brown, Williams
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; Irwin, Burton, C. Jones
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, All, Hudson, McLachlan
OT (2): O. Brown; Mims
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; Lee
OT/OG (2): Ford, Kirkland
----------------

B. Defense: (25)
DE (4): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Ossai, Johnson
DT (6): BJ Hill, Rankins; Jenkins; Carter, Tufele, Guy
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Bachie, Njongmeta
CB (5): CTB, D. Hill, Hilton; Turner, Newton
S (5): Bell, Stone; Battle, Anderson, Anthony
-------------

C. Special Teams: (4)
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow, Robbins
LS: Adomitis
--------------

D. Injured Lists (9)

1. Reserve/PUP (1)
1. CB DJ Ivey

2. Reserve/Injured (3 of 8 return)
1. Cam Sample, DE/DT
2. Chris Evans, RB 
3. D'Ante Smith, OL
4. Myles Murphy, DE, return designation (1/8)
5. Lance Robinson, CB
7. McKinley Jackson, NT, return des (3/8)
8. Trent Brown, OT, Season-ending
-------------------

E.  Practice Squad (16) (16 max, 6 vets, 10<3 years)


17 if last guy is an INT player. Can Protect 4.
Salary: 2 years or less: $225k, $12,500/wk
3+years: $302.4k-$383.4k; 16,800-$21,300/wk.

1. QB Woodside (Vet #1) 
2. RB Milton
3. WR Pryor, 1 elevation
4. WR Burgess
5. TE Grandy
6. OT Cochran 
7. OG Manning
8. C/OG T. Hill (Vet #2)
9. NT/DT D. Davis, 1 elevation
10. NT/DT Rogers
11. DE Henry 
12. DE Thomas
13. LB Heyward
14. CB J. Davis (Vet #3) 
15. CB Brooks 
16. S Jules

P Robbins waived, DE KJ Henry signed off our PS by Dallas. 


https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/10/1/24259416/kj-henry-cowboys-bengals-brad-robbins-practice-squad

That leaves us with 52 on the roster with Myrphy & Jackson both eligible to come back in the next 21 days. I'd say Murphy just takes spot #53 (hopefully this week). He's further along and has more experience. When Jackson is ready, we'll likely bump a DT to the PS (Guy, Tufele, Carter).

A. Offense: (24)
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (3): Moss; C. Brown, Williams
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; Irwin, Burton, C. Jones
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, All, Hudson, McLachlan
OT (2): O. Brown; Mims
OG (2): Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras; Lee
OT/OG (2): Ford, Kirkland
----------------

B. Defense: (25)
DE (4): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Ossai, Johnson
DT (6): BJ Hill, Rankins; Jenkins; Carter, Tufele, Guy
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Bachie, Njongmeta
CB (5): CTB, D. Hill, Hilton; Turner, Newton
S (5): Bell, Stone; Battle, Anderson, Anthony
-------------

C. Special Teams: (3)
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
--------------

D. Injured Lists (9)

1. Reserve/PUP (1)
1. CB DJ Ivey

2. Reserve/Injured (3 of 8 return)
1. Cam Sample, DE/DT
2. Chris Evans, RB 
3. D'Ante Smith, OL
4. Myles Murphy, DE, return designation (1/8)
5. Lance Robinson, CB
7. McKinley Jackson, NT, return des (3/8)
8. Trent Brown, OT, Season-ending
-------------------

E.  Practice Squad (15) (16 max, 6 vets, 10<3 years)


17 if last guy is an INT player. Can Protect 4.
Salary: 2 years or less: $225k, $12,500/wk
3+years: $302.4k-$383.4k; 16,800-$21,300/wk.

1. QB Woodside (Vet #1) 
2. RB Milton
3. WR Pryor, 1 elevation
4. WR Burgess
5. TE Grandy
6. OT Cochran 
7. OG Manning
8. C/OG T. Hill (Vet #2)
9. NT/DT D. Davis, 1 elevation
10. NT/DT Rogers
11. DE Thomas
12. LB Heyward
13. CB J. Davis (Vet #3) 
14. CB Brooks 
15. S Jules
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16. Open