(09-08-2024, 11:01 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: The OL was fine. Turnovers, and failure to stop the run is why they lost.

I know the receivers weren’t getting open, but Joe was also sped up way too much. Can’t keep treating week 1 like a preseason game. Especially coming back from an injury.

Per NextGenStats, Burrow was pressured at the 3rd lowest rate of his entire career. He only averaged 5.6 YPA with no pressure. The passing chart is insane considering. pic.twitter.com/InerCy5jnG

— Jake Liscow (@JakeLiscow) September 9, 2024

This matches exactly what I saw. Joe had good protection but he never seemed comfortable. Quickly taking his checkdown, looking to bail etc.

You would think that Zac being a former QB along with Joe could come up with some new play designs or wrinkles or folds or surprises, but they seem to run the same plain run plays or pass offs to a receiver for a 2 yd gain with a defender in his face. The offense looks the same as it did when Zac first got here.

Well it could be worse. Baltimore and Cleveland lost as well. Right now we are 1 game back from the Stoolers, but I don't see them sustaining success this year.

(09-08-2024, 11:39 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Well it could be worse. Baltimore and Cleveland lost as well. Right now we are 1 game back from the Stoolers, but I don't see them sustaining success this year.

Baltimore and Cleveland lost to much better teams. The Bengals were 9 point favorites coming into this game. Inexcusable.

(09-08-2024, 11:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Baltimore and Cleveland lost to much better teams. The Bengals were 9 point favorites coming into this game. Inexcusable.

If Hudson doesn't fumble that ball on the goal line, it's an entirely different game.

Hopefully Chase gets back into the swing of things and we can win some games.

A win in Arrowhead would be huge.

Notes from the game. Burrow is the issue. Not a defense that only gave up 16 points….

(09-08-2024, 11:52 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: If Hudson doesn't fumble that ball on the goal line, it's an entirely different game.

Hopefully Chase gets back into the swing of things and we can win some games.

A win in Arrowhead would be huge.

i'm not sure what makes you think we can win in arrowhead sir. reid figured us out. and our defense is worse then when we used to beat dem chefs.

when you go the first third of a game without a first down or points you will have a gassed defense late which is exactly what happened.

My Notes simply said:

GoundHog's Day

(09-08-2024, 11:52 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: If Hudson doesn't fumble that ball on the goal line, it's an entirely different game.

Hopefully Chase gets back into the swing of things and we can win some games.

A win in Arrowhead would be huge.

The what if game is what us losers do lol

(09-09-2024, 12:48 AM)jj22 Wrote: Notes from the game. Burrow is the issue. Not a defense that only gave up 16 points….

It’s not Burrow, it’s the offense. Plays are so vanilla, every team knows them by heart. Once they see the offense set, they know what’s coming. Every player has to execute perfect, in order to make the play work. We never stretch the field any more, nothing over the middle, all short dink and dunk passes. No wonder we can’t run the ball. Looks like peewee football out there, no imagination.

As for the Defense, looks exactly the same as last year. Can’t tackle, can’t contain a play, can’t cover downfield, guys are wide open, can’t contain the QB. Next week will be a disaster in KC.

I saw this from an article on NFl.com and though it was interesting:

https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-season-week-1-what-we-learned-from-sunday-s-games

Quote:Next Gen stat of the game: Joe Burrow was pressured on just 6 of 35 dropbacks, good for his third-lowest pressure rate faced in a game in his career (17.1%). He averaged 5.6 yards per attempt when not under pressure, his lowest mark in a game since Week 6, 2023, against the Seahawks (5.0). Burrow was sacked three times and completed just 1 of 2 pass attempts for 13 yards when under pressure.

(09-08-2024, 11:15 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: This matches exactly what I saw. Joe had good protection but he never seemed comfortable. Quickly taking his checkdown, looking to bail etc.

I think we all need to remember this was Joe's first full speed game back from a pretty significant injury. 

Pair that with his notoriously slow starts to the season - we should have seen this coming a bit. 

The game came down to 4 plays...

1. Dropped TD by Gesicki
2. Fumble on the goal line by Hudson
3. Dropped INT in endzone
4. Fumbled punt

Flip those plays around (or they don't happen) and the Bengals win a close, but ugly game.

(09-08-2024, 11:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Baltimore and Cleveland lost to much better teams. The Bengals were 9 point favorites coming into this game. Inexcusable.

Not saying it's not. I'm saying it could be worse of Baltimore and Cleveland won... remember, it's a Division race first. Hopefully this game wakes them up and sickens them on Tuesday while watching film. They can win in Arrowhead, they just have to play. It's not like the Chiefs have our number

(09-09-2024, 10:21 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Not saying it's not. I'm saying it could be worse of Baltimore and Cleveland won... remember, it's a Division race first. Hopefully this game wakes them up and sickens them on Tuesday while watching film. They can win in Arrowhead, they just have to play. It's not like the Chiefs have our number

I think the issue with going against the Chiefs is they have an elite roster top to bottom and have drafted young guys that look to be stars in the making like Worthy.

The Bengals had an elite roster, but the last 2-3 drafts haven't yielded those stars. They yielded Carmans, Burtons, and Dax Hills that struggle.

(09-09-2024, 08:37 AM)Timanky12 Wrote: It’s not Burrow, it’s the offense. Plays are so vanilla, every team knows them by heart. Once they see the offense set, they know what’s coming. Every player has to execute perfect, in order to make the play work. We never stretch the field any more, nothing over the middle, all short dink and dunk passes. No wonder we can’t run the ball. Looks like peewee football out there, no imagination.

Plays are vanilla because Burrow is a limited QB. If he was able to / or comfortable with playing from under center, play action, throw between the numbers, make plays down the seam etc consistently, they'd be able to expand the playbook.

He can't. It's time to face the fact we have an extremely limited QB. Now what he can do he does well. But teams that know how to stop what he can do, he has nothing else. And he knows it "they took away the deep ball" "they played cover 2" (and that was that, he's never had any reply or ability to adapt. He is even pretty cut and dry about it). 

It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's time we all speak freely on it. 

(09-09-2024, 10:26 AM)casear2727 Wrote:

Yes, they can win. But not playing like they did yesterday.