(10-08-2024, 08:35 AM)reuben.ahmed Wrote: Lamar had a day also, something like 350 passing and 55 on the ground. Our defense let him, though.

That Hubbard pic hurts. I wonder how many stiff arms Lamar has given in his career.

Hubbard has been a good player his entire time here. He's been bad this year, and playing through pain. I'm hoping he's not washed, but it may be the case. As someone else mentioned, it was his best game this year, but the bar was really low. 

(10-07-2024, 09:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: PFF had him as our 2nd highest-rated defender. No idea why some in here are trying to crap on him. I think they just get stuff in their head and cannot get it out. 

Agree

Its these productive (not always flashy) guys like Hubbard that you take for granted at your peril ...you need enough of them throughout your roster to win consistently.

Reminds me of Michael Johnson ....strong run stopper , had the odd decent pass rush season but was never the guy versus his bookend (Dunlap , Hendrickson)

That 3rd round spot he was picked in, when we hit that consistently it makes such a difference. Over 3 straight years in 3rd round we drafted Hubbard / Pratt / Wilson.

When those sort of picks turn into Zac Carter, Joseph Ossai, Tyler Shelvin then you end up where we are now

(10-07-2024, 09:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: PFF had him as our 2nd highest-rated defender. No idea why some in here are trying to crap on him. I think they just get stuff in their head and cannot get it out. 

Yeah, I get it, Burrow is playing the best of his career, lay off the dude. But also lay off of Sam after having his best game of the season 
while finally looking somewhat healthy. You don't have to hack on one dude, both played well. The Lamar whiff was rough, but that dude
is slippery as black ice.

(10-08-2024, 08:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote: And then they post a picture of a second or two after Lamar juked Hubbard, like he does every player in the league, and Hubbard on a second last ditch effort to get to him gets stiff armed as if Jackson punked him on the field. And never mind he's recovering from a hamstring injury, just put him on blast.

The Defense as a whole had a terrible game, that isn't Hubbard's fault that is for sure.

(10-08-2024, 12:51 PM)sonofstat Wrote: Its these productive (not always flashy) guys like Hubbard that you take for granted at your peril ...you need enough of them throughout your roster to win consistently.

Reminds me of Michael Johnson ....strong run stopper , had the odd decent pass rush season but was never the guy versus his bookend (Dunlap , Hendrickson)

That 3rd round spot he was picked in,  when we hit that consistently it makes such a difference. Over 3 straight years in 3rd round we drafted Hubbard / Pratt / Wilson.  

When those sort of picks turn into Zac Carter, Joseph Ossai, Tyler Shelvin then you end up where we are now

That would be Ossai-->Carter-->Battle

(10-08-2024, 02:37 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: That would be Ossai-->Carter-->Battle

Are you saying Jordan Battle is a bust Truck?

(10-08-2024, 02:40 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Are you saying Jordan Battle is a bust Truck?

I meant the succession of 3rd round picks

(10-08-2024, 02:45 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I meant the succession of 3rd round picks

Ahhh, well it got much better with Battle lol

(10-08-2024, 08:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote: And then they post a picture of a second or two after Lamar juked Hubbard, like he does every player in the league, and Hubbard on a second last ditch effort to get to him gets stiff armed as if Jackson punked him on the field. And never mind he's recovering from a hamstring injury, just put him on blast.

You should change your name to Excuse#21.

I'm a Sam Hubbard fan. That said...

HEY SAM. Remember those drills in training camp where you run through the dummies that have arms sticking out, where you're supposed to BAT THE ARM AWAY. 

Give that a shot now and then. 

(10-08-2024, 02:50 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I'm a Sam Hubbard fan. That said...

HEY SAM. Remember those drills in training camp where you run through the dummies that have arms sticking out, where you're supposed to BAT THE ARM AWAY. 

Give that a shot now and then. 

This is true, one hard, downward strike to that arm likely would have jerked Jackson's torso enough to make a weak and wobbly throw at best.

(10-08-2024, 02:50 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I'm a Sam Hubbard fan. That said...

HEY SAM. Remember those drills in training camp where you run through the dummies that have arms sticking out, where you're supposed to BAT THE ARM AWAY. 

Give that a shot now and then. 

Agree with this for sure. There are ways to combat them stiff arms.

He is a rotational piece at this point. Bengals need him to be more unfortunately at this point he isn't. I will always remember that 99 yard run in the playoffs he has a good long career don't let the end destroy the legacy.

is he back to full health?

(10-08-2024, 04:20 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: is he back to full health?

It would appear as such, the hamstring didn't look like it was nagging him any. He was the second highest graded defender in a weak and meager Bengals defensive effort.

(10-08-2024, 02:48 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: You should change your name to Excuse#21.

Because I look at things obsjectively and don't overreact? OK..

(10-08-2024, 04:54 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Because I look at things obsjectively and don't overreact? OK..

Well, overreaction and excuses aren't the same thing. 

(10-08-2024, 08:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote: And then they post a picture of a second or two after Lamar juked Hubbard, like he does every player in the league, and Hubbard on a second last ditch effort to get to him gets stiff armed as if Jackson punked him on the field. And never mind he's recovering from a hamstring injury, just put him on blast.

It's because folks have agendas. I'll be the first to admit Sam has had a poor start to the season, but he played a good game on a bad defense against BAL.

No shame in LJ juking you, The dude's a 2-time league MVP because he's outstanding at doing it. 

“Agendas” or just not in the mood for a thread praising anyone from the 31st ranked defense after a game where they gave up 520 yards.

But hey, Sam was our 2nd best defender after *checks notes* Bj Hill!

(10-08-2024, 06:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It's because folks have agendas. I'll be the first to admit Sam has had a poor start to the season, but he played a good game on a bad defense against BAL.

No shame in LJ juking you, The dude's a 2-time league MVP because he's outstanding at doing it. 

I praise a hard nose local boy that needed a good game against divison foe and some with agendas  just can't handle it.. too $%#& bad...