(10-08-2024, 07:05 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: same organization that won the afc and went to the superbowl 3 years ago..same organization that won the conference two years ago..and had not burrow been injured last year who knows....we had a perfect storm of defensive injuries..we will be fine

The defense was absolute garbage last season, too.

(10-08-2024, 07:10 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: probably longer than you..but that is  not important...this organization is entirely diffrent now..quit living in the past..we have  had a perfect storm of injuries to both key starters on defense ..and some great rookies that were drafted to help on the defensive line..it will get better

How is it entirely different now? You aren't posting anything substantive. Just platitudes about not living in the past and all will be well. 

We don't yet know if Jenkins and McKinley will improve the DL. I hope they do and don't become like other Duke/Zac DL picks. 

(10-08-2024, 07:01 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: same front office that was responsible for the team going to the superbowl..winning the AFC and then next year the conference championship?

The same front office that gave a Burrow an oline that destroyed his knee? 

The same front office that didnt do anything impactful to improve that same oline the very next season that cost us the SB?

Same front office that had a bad defense last season and an even worse defense this season?


This is the dumb shit Im talking about with fans that jumped on the bandwagon when we drafted Burrow.  This ownership/front office has not been good for decades but hey, we had 2 good years because we were so shitty to get lucky to draft 2 no-brainer Top 5 players...  

(10-08-2024, 07:05 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: same organization that won the afc and went to the superbowl 3 years ago..same organization that won the conference two years ago..and had not burrow been injured last year who knows....we had a perfect storm of defensive injuries..we will be fine

TBF, they played in the conference championship but didn't win it.

(10-08-2024, 08:43 PM)casear2727 Wrote: The same front office that gave a Burrow an oline that destroyed his knee? 

The same front office that didnt do anything impactful to improve that same oline the very next season that cost us the SB?

Same front office that had a bad defense last season and an even worse defense this season?


This is the dumb shit Im talking about with fans that jumped on the bandwagon when we drafted Burrow.  This ownership/front office has not been good for decades but hey, we had 2 good years because we were so shitty to get lucky to draft 2 no-brainer Top 5 players...  

Same front office that left the best receiver in the NFL as the only notable player from the 2021 draft without an extension.

Mike Brown will have Burrow buried next to him. He ain't goin' nowhere!

(10-08-2024, 09:00 PM)jason Wrote: Same front office that left the best receiver in the NFL as the only notable player from the 2021 draft without an extension.

Same front office that said we arent paying Bates because we are paying Tee....

Same front office that said we arent paying Tee because we are paying Chase....

(10-08-2024, 09:07 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Same front office that said we arent paying Bates because we are paying Tee....

Same front office that said we arent paying Tee because we are paying Chase....

I'm right with you here.  We kept getting sold on "keeping this team together".  So far that results in signing Burrow and not a lot else.  

If they aren't paying them because they are still unwilling to dish out guaranteed money, that's bad enough.  If they aren't paying them because they can't, then it's an existential threat to the franchise's ability to continue under the current ownership.  That likely doesn't mean we get a new tycoon owner that brings us into the future.  It means the family cashes out and the team moves.

Bad juju all around this year.

(10-08-2024, 09:07 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Same front office that said we arent paying Bates because we are paying Tee....

Same front office that said we arent paying Tee because we are paying Chase....

They really had me going too. I was ok with letting Bates go when his hold out/ tag situation was playing out in 22. I guess you can't keep everybody, and we'll need that for Higgins I suppose. Then we hear there haven't been any negotiations with Tee. Then Ja'Marr Chase, Brandon Aiyuk, and CeeDee Lamb are all looking for extensions this past summer. Ja'Marr is the only guy still waiting. We've been spoiled by WRs coming in and excelling from day one for over a decade now. Even the best WRs really hit their stride in their third season. Chase has that extra gear held back by poor QB play last season. We're seeing it now, and his pricetag is only getting higher. This organization is so damned pigheaded.

Back to Bates... I remember James Rapien saying it best during Bates last season in Cincinnati... You better not lose both Jesse AND Tee.

(10-08-2024, 09:07 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Same front office that said we arent paying Bates because we are paying Tee....

Same front office that said we arent paying Tee because we are paying Chase....

Exactly.....

Burrow after this game against the Eagles is thinking "How many years left here?"

(10-27-2024, 06:42 PM)GodFather Wrote: Burrow after this game against the Eagles is thinking "How many years left here?"

Or "Why didn't I listen and refuse to go to Cincy".

(10-27-2024, 06:49 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Or "Why didn't I listen and refuse to go to Cincy".

Wonder if he quit on the Bengals like Carson did would Mike Brown make Zac go to Joe's house and slide the contract under his door as well? 

(10-27-2024, 06:42 PM)GodFather Wrote: Burrow after this game against the Eagles is thinking "How many years left here?"

(10-27-2024, 06:49 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Or "Why didn't I listen and refuse to go to Cincy".

(10-27-2024, 07:46 PM)GodFather Wrote: Wonder if he quit on the Bengals like Carson did would Mike Brown make Zac go to Joe's house and slide the contract under his door as well? 

I’m starting to see things Carson Palmer’s way — and that’s difficult for me because of how Carson left town.

(10-27-2024, 07:52 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: I’m starting to see things Carson Palmer’s way — and that’s difficult for me because of how Carson left town.

Carson was right.