(10-10-2024, 03:29 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Realistically, we have no way of knowing. You're making the assumption that the game would have played out the same exact way. The final portion of the game would have played out differently. If the fumble doesn't happen, KC gets the ball on a punt. Maybe they score, maybe they don't. Maybe there's a turnover somewhere. We can't change something from the past and then just assume everything plays out in the same exact manner. Chaos theory, butterfly effect, all that fun stuff. 

Yeah, i think people don't always get that one single random play, if different, changes the entire outcome of the rest of the game. 

(10-10-2024, 05:15 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: If it's caused by an outside force, then it becomes a forced error. 

In the literal sense yes but not all sayings are meant to be taken in their literal sense. If you still don’t get what I was saying I can’t help you.

(10-10-2024, 05:18 PM)jj22 Wrote: In the literal sense yes but not all sayings are meant to be taken in their literal sense. If you still don’t get what I was saying I can’t help you.

Stop it.

(10-10-2024, 03:28 PM)jj22 Wrote: The saying is about putting yourself unnecessarily in a position for something to occur. Not that it was an error or not. Forced or unforced.

I am 49 years old. I have NEVER seen anyone use "unforced error" in the way you're trying to use it. The word you're ACTUALLY looking for is "careless"; not that I think Burrow was careless either, but "unforced error"? SMH

(10-10-2024, 03:28 PM)jj22 Wrote: Burrow was doing too much.

Did you even watch the game? Burrow was forced out of the pocket! So, according to you, Burrow should not have tried to escape the sack? What if he stood there, got sacked and fumbled it anyways? What would your be advice to avoid THAT particular "unforced error"?

jj22 Wrote: Didn't you read the football for dummies book. Live to fight another play. Page 106.

Uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh, you do realize that this isn't a dig at ME, right?

(10-10-2024, 05:18 PM)jj22 Wrote: In the literal sense yes but not all sayings are meant to be taken in their literal sense. If you still don’t get what I was saying I can’t help you.

If you are on the witness stand and a lawyer asks you a question and you say something incriminating that you didn’t have to say. Sure you can say it was a forced error because the lawyer asked. But what do they call it?

That’s what the Burrow fumble was. Maybe I’m using the wrong term. I’m confident enough people know what I meant based on the feedback.

(10-10-2024, 05:01 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Pressure is 100% everything in whether they start to turn it around. You can't have guys playing zone and allow the QB to stand in the pocket for 5 seconds and then throw a clean ball. Every QB in the NFL will eat you up that way.

Get pressure, the defense starts to improve.

The Giants iOL is a bottom-3 unit in pass blocking in true pass sets, per composite OL rankings from @benbbaldwin.

If there was ever a week for the Bengals iDL to show any signs of life rushing the passer, this is it. https://t.co/HdZlRDTSPu

— Gridiron Grading (@GridironGrading) October 10, 2024

Sunday night would be a good time for Rankins to start earning that money.

(10-10-2024, 05:21 PM)jj22 Wrote: If you are on the witness stand and a lawyer asks you a question and you say something incriminating that you didn’t have to say. Sure you can say it was a forced error because the lawyer asked. But what do they call it?

That’s what the Burrow fumble was. Maybe I’m using the wrong term. I’m confident enough people know what I meant based on the feedback.

(10-10-2024, 05:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

The Giants iOL is a bottom-3 unit in pass blocking in true pass sets, per composite OL rankings from @benbbaldwin.

If there was ever a week for the Bengals iDL to show any signs of life rushing the passer, this is it. https://t.co/HdZlRDTSPu

— Gridiron Grading (@GridironGrading) October 10, 2024

Sunday night would be a good time for Rankins to start earning that money.

this is gonna be another high scoring game where Burrow is going to have to play perfect in order for cincy to win

which is a risky strategy, as we all see

(10-10-2024, 05:09 PM)jj22 Wrote: Fair enough but that wasn’t the final opportunity to close the game.

Mahomes should have never got the ball back to get in FG range.

There was 1 other opportunity after the go ahead FG in which Iosivas dropped a pass and then Burrow was sacked on 3rd down. I guess it's Burrow's fault for making his receivers drop passes and for his OL not blocking defenders?

(10-10-2024, 05:21 PM)jj22 Wrote: If you are on the witness stand and a lawyer asks you a question and you say something incriminating that you didn’t have to say. Sure you can say it was a forced error because the lawyer asked. But what do they call it?

That’s what the Burrow fumble was. Maybe I’m using the wrong term. I’m confident enough people know what I meant based on the feedback.

You seriously quoted yourself?

Well if you don’t believe me Google it the saying. That fumble was on Burrow not protecting the ball as he went down. Not some miraculous skilled play by a defender like you’d see in a strip sack. It was a clumsy fumble.

(10-10-2024, 05:21 PM)jj22 Wrote: If you are on the witness stand and a lawyer asks you a question and you say something incriminating that you didn’t have to say. Sure you can say it was a forced error because the lawyer asked. But what do they call it?

No one would call that a "forced error". 

(10-10-2024, 05:21 PM)jj22 Wrote: That’s what the Burrow fumble was. Maybe I’m using the wrong term. I’m confident enough people know what I meant based on the feedback.

You ARE using the wrong term!!!

(10-10-2024, 05:29 PM)casear2727 Wrote:

You seriously quoted yourself?

Yes and. I wanted to connect the point to that post. Does that trigger you?

(10-10-2024, 05:32 PM)jj22 Wrote: Yes and. I wanted to connect the point to that post. Does that trigger you?

I remember when you were crying for caesar and I to be banned lol

For lies you still haven’t proved. Still playing from that tired fake news playbook. I’m still waiting for that quote proving I said what was claimed. I remember you backtracked with you tail between your legs. Caesar at least held strong.

I’m sure he remembers you throwing him under the bus.

(10-10-2024, 05:30 PM)jj22 Wrote: Well if you don’t believe me Google it the saying. That fumble was on Burrow not protecting the ball as he went down. Not some miraculous skilled play by a defender like you’d see in a strip sack. It was a clumsy fumble.

So, it's your assertion that Burrow would still have fumbled the ball if those 2 defenders were NOT there tackling him? That the 2 guys tackling him had no effect on Burrow's ability to hold onto the ball? Ok. 

(10-10-2024, 05:35 PM)PhilHos Wrote: So, it's your assertion that Burrow would still have fumbled the ball if those 2 defenders were NOT there tackling him? That the 2 guys tackling him had no effect on Burrow's ability to hold onto the ball? Ok. 

Like had had the week before?

(10-10-2024, 05:35 PM)jj22 Wrote: For lies you still haven’t proved. Still playing from that tired fake news playbook. I’m still waiting for that quote proving I said what was claimed. I remember you backtracked with you tail between your legs. Caesar at least held strong.

wow you have a terrible memory lmao 

(10-10-2024, 05:32 PM)jj22 Wrote: Yes and. I wanted to connect the point to that post. Does that trigger you?

No, but I do get frustrated when our own fans are severely uninformed and instead of accepting their obviously incorrect statements and moving forward, their pride and ego force them into expanding their arguments by moving goal posts and creating their own form of linguistics with words that already have a true definition. 


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(10-10-2024, 05:40 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: wow you have a terrible memory lmao 

You don’t remember quickly correcting yourself saying you weren’t quoting me when Caesar said you were?!

Convenient.