At least the Bengals didn't get in the habit of picking lousy QBs. Even Andy was pretty good for the most part compared with a lot of QBs ..He's still a starter in the league.  

(10-11-2024, 04:44 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Only because we drafted a LT in the 1st round while Andrew Whitworth was coming off a 2nd Team All-Pro season, which alienated our possible future HoFer, which meant we were then stuck with starting Ogbuehi (who sucked), so then we needed a new new LT. 

Basically an Own-Goal Hat Trick.

while all true how many OL are playing at probowl level into their mid /late 30s  i understand looking for the future at the time  sucks we lost whit though

(10-12-2024, 09:54 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Sir, you should be behind bars for murdering our language.

Imma hava diz on dat... it's all the new trend, butcher the language.

(10-11-2024, 07:30 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'll never understand his philosophy of drafting and valuing positions from the outside in. Everyone knows that in order to build a fundamentally sound football team, you work from the inside and progress out. This team has always paid up the money for OT, DE, WR, CB and treated interior OL/DL (save a rare exception or two) along with LB, S, and TE and treated them as tertiary positions that could just be filled by warm bodies.

Just look at the Lions O-line.  Imagine Burrow behind that. 

(10-14-2024, 01:09 PM)No-huddle Joe Wrote: Just look at the Lions O-line.  Imagine Burrow behind that. 

And you just gotta love a player like Frank Ragnow, he came up and two hand shoved HC Dan Campbell up against the wall, as his way of showing Campbell that his injured pec was now good to go. (Yes, Campbell was completely good with it, even excited about it.)

Jonah was a good prospect whom many considered the safest OL pick in the draft.
The selection made sense and the coaching staff likely had some part in why Jonah wasn't more effective in Cincy.
Bengals needed a LT at the time.
Jawaan Taylor wasn't considered a great fit for LT.
The closest other player who was thought to be a LT in the draft was Andre Dillard, who has not panned out.

Bengals could have chosen to keep going with Cordy Glenn at LT, who was not performing as desired, was not happy, he was getting older, and he was only signed through 2020.
Bengals could have chosen to go for a DL to groom as an heir to Dunlap or Atkins instead, but that would have been putting all their chips in on the Cordy Glenn train.

I don't blame the Bengals for the selection they made.
In fact, it was a good selection at the time, IMO.

(10-14-2024, 01:09 PM)No-huddle Joe Wrote: Just look at the Lions O-line.  Imagine Burrow behind that. 

Um, ours is fine? We faced the best DL in the league yesterday, we aren't going to see a team that good for the rest of the year.

(10-14-2024, 02:52 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Um, ours is fine? We faced the best DL in the league yesterday, we aren't going to see a team that good for the rest of the year.

Did you watch any of the Steelers/Raiders game yesterday? I didn't watch the game intently, but Pittsburgh's defensive front looks as equally impressive as NY's did last night.

(10-14-2024, 02:52 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Um, ours is fine? We faced the best DL in the league yesterday, we aren't going to see a team that good for the rest of the year.

the line is ok but they still cant run block well.

(10-14-2024, 02:52 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Um, ours is fine? We faced the best DL in the league yesterday, we aren't going to see a team that good for the rest of the year.

Still isn't as good as the Lions, but yeah, I like how our OL has played this year unlike in years past.

(10-14-2024, 01:09 PM)No-huddle Joe Wrote: Just look at the Lions O-line.  Imagine Burrow behind that. 

I’d rather have Dan Campbell.

(10-11-2024, 04:57 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: There was a documentary that came out with Belichik and Saban talking during, I think a Bama pro day and one or the other said they thought Jonah was the best prospect in the entire draft. That was cool for a minute.

I recall this. Don't remember them saying best in draft just most pro ready at Alabama. And I remember Bill specifically saying "at tackle"? Implying most had him pegged as a guard due to build 

Hindsight 20/20 is too easy. Sitting in the chair and have a decision to make based on the players performance, then have it turn sour, has to be a *****. Remember, 1/4th of the fanbase wanted us to take Sewell over Burrow. Sewell wouldn't have taken us to a SB.

(10-14-2024, 06:29 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Hindsight 20/20 is too easy. Sitting in the chair and have a decision to make based on the players performance, then have it turn sour, has to be a *****. Remember, 1/4th of the fanbase wanted us to take Sewell over Burrow. Sewell wouldn't have taken us to a SB.

It was actually Ja'Marr Chase we took over Sewell.  

It was Chase Young that some of the Ohio State homers wanted us to take over Burrow.

(10-14-2024, 08:09 PM)No-huddle Joe Wrote: It was actually Ja'Marr Chase we took over Sewell.  

Ahh yes, my mistake and thanks for the correction. How could I have forgotten the meme showing Burrow being sacked? 

(10-11-2024, 03:56 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: it was the bigger need at the time

Thats why you dont draft based on need. 

(10-15-2024, 09:14 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Thats why you dont draft based on need. 

I agree that is the optimal strategy if you can afford to do it

(10-11-2024, 04:57 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: There was a documentary that came out with Belichik and Saban talking during, I think a Bama pro day and one or the other said they thought Jonah was the best prospect in the entire draft. That was cool for a minute.

I was pretty stoked with the pick ....even my brother, who doesn't follow the Bengals and coaches high school oline....said he felt like it was going to be a very solid pick.  I watched that same interview too. History was not kind, lol.

(10-11-2024, 08:22 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Karras is okayish, but I was always so frustrated while we had a 12-13 year stretch of Kyle Cook, Russel Bodine, Billy Price, and Trey Hopkins manning C. Meanwhile I was watching Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, late-Romo/early-Dak, or the Matt Ryan SB year. They always seemed to have a good Center so that their pocket wasn't collapsed from the inside and they could always step up into it. That interior pressure always seems to be the killer and preventing a QB from being able to set their feet and make quality throws instead of off their backfoot or whatnot.

Now you see the Chiefs trying to three-peat, the Lions become relevant, the Eagles prior to this year (then their C retired). 

Could never understand how the Bengals could spend so long undervaluing the only position that touches the ball more than the QB, and is the literal centerpiece of your offense. Seeing Alex Mack go to Atlanta and immediately upgrade their offense both running and passing, and then they went to the SB. It stung. Lol

Don't you be going on any witch hunts without your ketchup bottle.

Yessir! I remember NUMEROUS conversations on here about the Center position during that era. If they had just invested in one for 2013-2015 at a minimum, they may have won a playoff game....or more.