(10-24-2024, 05:47 PM)casear2727 Wrote: You mean.... like run a screen?  The Rams were one of, if not the worst at defending screens that season.  We ran zero screens in the Super Bowl.

"sAvahhhhhNNNttTTTt!!!!1!!" - Zac supporters probably. 

(10-24-2024, 05:47 PM)casear2727 Wrote: You mean.... like run a screen?  The Rams were one of, if not the worst at defending screens that season.  We ran zero screens in the Super Bowl.

Good catch, likely couldn't have mitigated the pass rush of Aaron Donald, at least a little bit by running a couple throughout the game.

(10-24-2024, 12:32 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: ?

I'm all aboard with the belief that the Refs and the Chiefs are on the same team, but that specific penalty wasn't sketchy at all.





If you slow down the playback speed, you can see Mahomes was on his third step out of bounds when Ossai shoved him.

Cleary a penalty.  Just like the block on the back on the return that wasn't called that allowed the Chiefs to start at midfield as well as the non holding call on the Ossai penalty

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-8-jared-goff-enters-top-five-brock-purdy-slips

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-week-8-qb-power-rankings-buccaneers-baker-mayfield-lions-jared-goff-leap-into-top-five/

(10-24-2024, 07:48 PM)jj22 Wrote: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-8-jared-goff-enters-top-five-brock-purdy-slips

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-week-8-qb-power-rankings-buccaneers-baker-mayfield-lions-jared-goff-leap-into-top-five/

What are we supposed to infer from those linked articles? 

(10-24-2024, 07:54 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: What are we supposed to infer from those linked articles? 

You should infer that Burrow is awesome, just like JJ has been saying all along...............

Nothing. Just adding to the thread with Burrow news as it’s grown to become. Good or bad.

I hadn’t seen any qb rankings posted. 

To go along with the rankings, with all the talk of the number of good young QBs coming into the league. 

Passer rating - #3
tQBR - #4 (72.6, highest of his career)
Att - #7
Comp - #4
Comp% - #4
Yds - #6
Y/A - #8
Y/G - #6
TD - #4
Int - #39

(10-11-2024, 11:22 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This is gonna take a while so let's start with 2020. Also, keep in mind. These are all close losses to see what Burrow did in those games at the end. I guess after this i'll go back and highlight the GWD as well. 


1st game - drives the team down and has a TD pass called back for OPI. Kicker misses a chip shot to tie it with :02 left.

2nd game - Final drive they were down 12 after the defense failed to stop the Browns after the Bengals pulled to within 23-28 with 5:55 in the game on a Burrow TD pass.

3rd game - Speaks for itself in the description above. Throws a game sealing INT with 1/2 minute left.

4th game - Defense gave up lead with :11 seconds after Burrow TD pass with 1:06 left in the game took the lead.

2020 - That's 3 clutch, 1 no clutch----2 team fails, 1 Burrow fail and 1 defecit greater than 1 score on last drive.

(10-24-2024, 12:31 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

1st game - down 2 tds with 6:40 left. Gets to within 3 and D missed a chance at a sack on 3rd down for a chance at a GWD. 

2nd game - mixed bag. Gets team in FG range twice, missed FG both times. Throws INT in OT. 

3rd game - throws INT that leads to Jets lead then gets sacked on 3rd down before Jets run out clock.

4th game - Infamous conservative play calling in OT. Leads team to tying TD late with clutch passes then gets close in OT before 2 runs and a sack on 3rd down. SF wins game on next drive with TD. 

5th game - Super Bowl. Failed to add to lead in 4th and gets the ball back with 1:25. Hits a couple passes then a failed run on 3rd and 1 and a quick sack while Ja'Marr was wide open down the right sideline. 

2021 - That's 3 clutch, 2 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 clear Burrow fail in NYJ and a 50/50 team/Burrow fail in the SB. 

2020/2021 -- 6 clutch, 3 no clutch

(10-24-2024, 12:53 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: 2022 i don't need to type all out. 

1st game - vs Pitt. Throws TD pass as time expires to tie. XP blocked. Missed FG in OT

2nd game - vs Dallas. Completes three 3rd downs and one 4th down. Throws TD pass and 2pt conversion to tie it. Defense give up game on last second FG. 

3rd game - vs Balt. Drives team down and scores go ahead rushing TD with 1:56 left. Defense gives up game on last second FG. 

4th game - vs KC in AFCCG. Fails to drive the team to go ahead TD/FG after 3rd down sack. Defense gives up game on last second FG. 

2022 - That's 3 clutch, 1 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 Burrow fail. 

2020/2021/2022 -- 9 clutch, 4 no clutch. 

1st game - down 17-27 drives team and throws TD pass with 3:28 left in game to make it 24-27. Ravens get two 1st downs and run out clock.

2nd game - down 17-27, bengals get INT and return to Texans 4 yd line. Rushing TD makes it 24-27. Bengals stop on D and start the last drive on their 29 with 2:10 left. Burrow drives team and Boyd drops TD pass leading to tying FG. Texans then drive for GW FG at the end. 

2023 - That's 2 clutch, 0 no clutch----1 fail to get stop and 1 drive for GWFG.

2020/2021/2022/2023 -- 11 clutch, 4 no clutch. 

At this point i'd have to say...i'm embarrassed, as a Bengals fan, to have compared Burrow to early Rodgers and questioned if he was clutch late in games. He obviously, clearly is and is doing everything he can to keep the team in it late in losses. 

Still have to do '24 just to finish it off but i want to state, clearly, that i was wrong. He's had 2 really big "fails" in the SB and AFCCG in '22 but overall, way more than not, he's him. 

You all are coming off a slow start. But it doesn't matter where you start but how you all finish!

(10-26-2024, 12:07 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: At this point i'd have to say...i'm embarrassed, as a Bengals fan, to have compared Burrow to early Rodgers and questioned if he was clutch late in games. He obviously, clearly is and is doing everything he can to keep the team in it late in losses. 

Still have to do '24 just to finish it off but i want to state, clearly, that i was wrong. He's had 2 really big "fails" in the SB and AFCCG in '22 but overall, way more than not, he's him. 

And ofc the context of those two games:

Jonah Williams - Quentin Spain - Trey Hopkins - Hakeem Adeniji - Isaiah Prince

Jackson Carman - Cordell Volson - Ted Karras - Max Scharping - Hakeem Adeniji

Vs Aaron Donald & Chris Jones. It was honestly a miracle that those games were even as close as they were. Not even Mahomes would have won it all with those OL’s. We saw what happened to him against Tampa in the SB he lost.

Also, thanks for all the work you did researching.

(10-26-2024, 01:07 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: And ofc the context of those two games:

Jonah Williams - Quentin Spain - Trey Hopkins - Hakeem Adeniji - Isaiah Prince

Jackson Carman - Cordell Volson - Ted Karras - Max Scharping - Hakeem Adeniji

Vs Aaron Donald & Chris Jones. It was honestly a miracle that those games were even as close as they were. Not even Mahomes would have won it all with those OL’s. We saw what happened to him against Tampa in the SB he lost.

Also, thanks for all the work you did researching.

NP mang! It's been interesting to go back and watch just how the games played out and where the issues were. 

Yeah, i left the word "fail" in there but thought it seemed a bit strong so i went back and put the " " around it. Sooo frustrating that this FO hasn't been able to give Joe good protection more often. Or that he hasn't been lucky enough to at least keep adequate guys healthy. And it's really frustrating as hell to see certain other teams just always do what's necessary to keep their team rolling. QB and offense goes to shit? No prob, let's just get a ridiculous elite defense...

I'm not Burrow's wife..she can pat him for those stats, what I want from Burrow are W's.

(10-26-2024, 08:29 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: I'm not Burrow's wife..she can pat him for those stats, what I want from Burrow are W's.

I know. "Stats are for losers". Stats are also like words to a story. They tell how successful or not a guy is in keeping his team or getting his team in a chance to do what you said, get dubs. A QB can only do QB things in the time they're allotted. If they do what they can and another part of the team lets down, what can you do?

I'll just rest easier knowing that the creeping thoughts in my mind were false and see how it goes from here.

Adjusted EPA Week 8 Leaderboard pic.twitter.com/S0v907151B

— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) October 30, 2024

Even if Joe doesn’t know what it is.

? QB - Joe Burrow

The most valuable players at every position this season:https://t.co/06XKEAjd9Y

— PFF CIN Bengals (@PFF_Bengals) October 31, 2024

Burrow with the highest WAR in the league.

If Andy was still our qb, we'd probably have 0 wins.

Marvin Lewis made the playoffs with him as our qb 5 years in a row.

(10-31-2024, 09:44 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

? QB - Joe Burrow

The most valuable players at every position this season:https://t.co/06XKEAjd9Y

— PFF CIN Bengals (@PFF_Bengals) October 31, 2024

Burrow with the highest WAR in the league.

I hope they don't waste his prime and healthy years.

(10-11-2024, 11:22 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This is gonna take a while so let's start with 2020. Also, keep in mind. These are all close losses to see what Burrow did in those games at the end. I guess after this i'll go back and highlight the GWD as well. 


1st game - drives the team down and has a TD pass called back for OPI. Kicker misses a chip shot to tie it with :02 left.

2nd game - Final drive they were down 12 after the defense failed to stop the Browns after the Bengals pulled to within 23-28 with 5:55 in the game on a Burrow TD pass.

3rd game - Speaks for itself in the description above. Throws a game sealing INT with 1/2 minute left.

4th game - Defense gave up lead with :11 seconds after Burrow TD pass with 1:06 left in the game took the lead.

2020 - That's 3 clutch, 1 no clutch----2 team fails, 1 Burrow fail and 1 defecit greater than 1 score on last drive.

(10-24-2024, 12:31 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

1st game - down 17 with 6:40 left. Gets to within 3 and D missed a chance at a sack on 3rd down for a chance at a GWD. 

2nd game - mixed bag. Gets team in FG range twice, missed FG both times. Throws INT in OT. 

3rd game - throws INT that leads to Jets lead then gets sacked on 3rd down before Jets run out clock.

4th game - Infamous conservative play calling in OT. Leads team to tying TD late with clutch passes then gets close in OT before 2 runs and a sack on 3rd down. SF wins game on next drive with TD. 

5th game - Super Bowl. Failed to add to lead in 4th and gets the ball back with 1:25. Hits a couple passes then a failed run on 3rd and 1 and a quick sack while Ja'Marr was wide open down the right sideline. 

2021 - That's 3 clutch, 2 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 clear Burrow fail in NYJ and a 50/50 team/Burrow fail in the SB. 

2020/2021 -- 6 clutch, 3 no clutch

(10-24-2024, 12:53 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: 2022 i don't need to type all out. 

1st game - vs Pitt. Throws TD pass as time expires to tie. XP blocked. Missed FG in OT

2nd game - vs Dallas. Completes three 3rd downs and one 4th down. Throws TD pass and 2pt conversion to tie it. Defense give up game on last second FG. 

3rd game - vs Balt. Drives team down and scores go ahead rushing TD with 1:56 left. Defense gives up game on last second FG. 

4th game - vs KC in AFCCG. Fails to drive the team to go ahead TD/FG after 3rd down sack. Defense gives up game on last second FG. 

2022 - That's 3 clutch, 1 no clutch----3 team fails, 1 Burrow fail. 

2020/2021/2022 -- 9 clutch, 4 no clutch. 

(10-25-2024, 11:56 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

1st game - down 17-27 drives team and throws TD pass with 3:28 left in game to make it 24-27. Ravens get two 1st downs and run out clock.

2nd game - down 17-27, bengals get INT and return to Texans 4 yd line. Rushing TD makes it 24-27. Bengals stop on D and start the last drive on their 29 with 2:10 left. Burrow drives team and Boyd drops TD pass leading to tying FG. Texans then drive for GW FG at the end. 

2023 - That's 2 clutch, 0 no clutch----1 fail to get stop and 1 drive for GWFG.

2020/2021/2022/2023 -- 11 clutch, 4 no clutch. 

And finally...



1st game - fails to move ball at all.
2nd game - dropped pass on 2nd down that would have gone for a first then sacked on 3rd down. Left field with lead and defense gives up 4th and 16 on a penalty. Chiefs win on last second FG.
3rd game - down 12 with 2:10 left in game. leads TD drive to pull within 5. failed onsides kick.
4th game - throws INT with 38-35 lead which leads to ravens tying it at 1:36. sack, dropped pass, run on 3rd and long to punt with :05 left in game. after ravens fumble in OT, bengals run 3 straight times and miss GWFG.

2024 - That's 1 clutch in the WASH game to keep them in it. 2 no clutch in NE and BALT for not moving the ball and throwing an INT and 1 neither due to dropped pass and blitz sack, followed by defense losing game.

2020/2021/2022/2023/2024 -- 12 clutch, 6 no clutch, 1 neither to total 19 games of losing by 1 score or less.