(01-10-2016, 02:34 AM)Joelist Wrote: The PF actually should have been on the Steelers not Jones. The second Joey Porter stepped on the field that was a PF, it's the same thing as when Tomlin stepped into the field of play. Plus Porter was taunting.

Yup. A linebackers coach has no business being out their with the AT staff. 

(01-10-2016, 02:35 AM)Joelist Wrote: Wrong. Helmet to Helmet is always a PF.

No its not. 

Just way too many non football play/flags that entire game. Sad.

(01-10-2016, 02:35 AM)Joelist Wrote: Wrong. Helmet to Helmet is always a PF.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000238662/article/new-nfl-rules-crownofhelmet-change-to-help-runner-defender

NFL should suspend these refs. absolute larceny,,,,

(01-10-2016, 02:36 AM)treee Wrote: No its not. 

Leading with your crown is always to be a 15 yard penalty with the rules change.

(01-10-2016, 03:45 AM)fisherscatfan Wrote: Leading with your crown is always to be a 15 yard penalty with the rules change.

Look at the link i posted

(01-10-2016, 03:49 AM)treee Wrote: Look at the link i posted

Actually your link supports what EVERONE (including Periera) is saying. It was a PF. Officials screwed up BADLY on that one. Shazier launched with the crown of the helmet and Gio was outside the tackle box.

(01-10-2016, 03:53 AM)Joelist Wrote: Actually your link supports what EVERONE (including Periera) is saying. It was a PF. Officials screwed up BADLY on that one. Shazier launched with the crown of the helmet and Gio was outside the tackle box.

Dude thats what I was saying. I was making an argument for why it was a penalty. The announcers tried to play it off because "he was a runner"

(01-10-2016, 03:49 AM)treee Wrote: Look at the link i posted

What the rule changes: A 15-yard penalty will be called if a runner or a tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players clearly are outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle-to-tackle and from 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or a tackler against an opponent would not be deemed a foul.

I misunderstood you. It seemed to me you said it was not a penalty.  My bad.

(01-10-2016, 03:57 AM)fisherscatfan Wrote: What the rule changes: A 15-yard penalty will be called if a runner or a tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players clearly are outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle-to-tackle and from 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or a tackler against an opponent would not be deemed a foul.



I did but evidently you didn't  so I copied the relevant part.  Please read the part about the tackler.  

i get it dude. but i was saying its not always a penalty (eg if youre a runner in the tackle box)

(01-10-2016, 02:13 AM)Aquapod770 Wrote: The last one was on Pacman. The refs let Porter stay on the field and incite him. It was a joke.

If they threw the flag on Porter for being there/inciting things, it would have been a 63-65 yard FG or so. Heck, even if they threw offsetting it would still have been like 48-50 in the rain.