(11-24-2024, 11:10 PM)Joelist Wrote: It IS baffling. As I noted in prior seasons they usually found a way to make the play at the end. This year it has been the opposite; they find a way at the end to give up the game winning play. So the team this year has been the opposite of clutch. 

Maybe the coaching message isn't working anymore. Maybe their adjustments and tendancies (both coaches and players) have been studied by FOs universally larger than ours so they're better prepared to stop what we try. Or we just are less talented this year than previous years. 

In one-score games in the Burrow/Taylor era we are....
1-6 this year
5-4 in 2023
6-4 in 2022
7-6 in 2021
2-5-1 in 2020
(21-25-1)

Compare that to the Chiefs...
8-0 this year
9-5 in 2023
10-3 in 2022
6-4 in 2021
9-1 in 2020
(42-13)

Maybe we're just never been as clutch as we liked to believe? We remembered the good and forgot the bad? Even at our best we're just a hair above .500.

(11-24-2024, 10:50 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: there has been nothing indicated by anyone that would remotely suggest that the coaching staff has lost the players..and the team continues to play hard

You can see it in their faces after games it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Also players calling out coaches that hasn't been happening for a long time. The writing is on the wall.

(11-23-2024, 11:28 PM)pulses Wrote: He's probably talking about Burrow being the only one who came in on the bye week to do any kind of work.

I'm curious where you saw that, because I would be immensely surprised if it were true. I'd just about guarantee Vonn Bell was in there every day working out.

(11-25-2024, 12:36 AM)pulses Wrote: You can see it in their faces after games it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Also players calling out coaches that hasn't been happening for a long time. The writing is on the wall.

I think Zac is losing the team. Look at last game, Hubbard and Pratt were going off on the sidelines. Chase looked upset a few times. Burrow always looks pissed off but that’s just burrow.

The funny thing is the other veterans on the team have played so bad they know they can’t speak up because their the reason the team sucks so bad.

(11-24-2024, 10:19 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Browns have 4 one-score losses.
Patriots have 4 one-score losses.
Bucs have 4 one-score losses.
Bears have 5 one-score losses.
Giants have 5 one-score losses.
Jets have 5 one-score losses.
Jags have 6 one-score losses.

Heck, the Texans are 7-5 and have 4 one-score losses.

If everyone won their one-score losses, there'd only be 3 teams left in the NFL with a losing record: Panthers, Raiders, and Titans. 

That's the NFL. Losing those one-score games isn't why you're unlucky or baffling, it's why you're a bad team because that's largely the difference between good and bad teams in the NFL with it's parity. Only 3 of the Chief's 11 games have been decided by more than one score. They're 10-1 because they're a good team.

And how many of those one score games end in one score differences due to "garbage" time scoring by the losing team? Many a game have I watched and thought "that game wasn't nearly as close as the score would indicate".

(11-25-2024, 09:52 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: And how many of those one score games end in one score differences due to "garbage" time scoring by the losing team? Many a game have I watched and thought "that game wasn't nearly as close as the score would indicate".

Yup you see that a lot. It's 27 - 10 with 2 minutes to go and the team that has been dominated basically the entire game, their offense was awful and scored their first TD on a short field turnover. They drive down in "garbage time" vs. a prevent defense and tack on another TD 27 - 17, you see the score and think oh they held their own. But that's not the real story.

I’ve been saying for weeks something is up with the team behind the scenes. I don’t pretend to know what, but I smell turmoil of some kind.

(11-25-2024, 09:30 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I'm curious where you saw that, because I would be immensely surprised if it were true. I'd just about guarantee Vonn Bell was in there every day working out.

How much does turning this season around matter to Joe Burrow?

Player parking lot was mostly empty when we showed up for Zac Taylor's bye week presser today.

Joe Burrow's car was there. #Bengals @fox19 pic.twitter.com/8jod47ZZwl

— Jeremy Rauch (@FOX19Jeremy) November 19, 2024

casear is winning The Bengals Board. He has a thread about nothing that's made it to page two.

(11-25-2024, 12:36 AM)pulses Wrote: You can see it in their faces after games it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Also players calling out coaches that hasn't been happening for a long time. The writing is on the wall.

the players are disappointed after playing hard and losing..does not mean that they have lost respect for Taylor,..quit trying to create a work of fiction...The players on this team that actually complain is small compared to other teams..You are just trying to project your own fee;lings about Taylor by making stuff up

This is the week.
If Bengals drop this one to PIT, best they can do is 9-8 but they can't make it in over DEN, IND, or MIA with another AFC conference loss.
Gotta win this to stay alive.

If they can't beat PIT, who just lost to a crappy Browns team, after having an extra week to prepare, that's very telling.

(11-25-2024, 11:54 AM)ochocincos Wrote: This is the week.
If Bengals drop this one to PIT, best they can do is 9-8 but they can't make it in over DEN, IND, or MIA with another AFC conference loss.
Gotta win this to stay alive.

If they can't beat PIT, who just lost to a crappy Browns team, after having an extra week to prepare, that's very telling.

The only way that they're beating Pittsburgh is by jumping out to a two score lead and keeping the foot on the pedal.

(11-25-2024, 10:52 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

How much does turning this season around matter to Joe Burrow?

Player parking lot was mostly empty when we showed up for Zac Taylor's bye week presser today.

Joe Burrow's car was there. #Bengals @fox19 pic.twitter.com/8jod47ZZwl

— Jeremy Rauch (@FOX19Jeremy) November 19, 2024

So "mostly." Not all the way. Or maybe they just weren't there when Jeremy was. I agree they all should have been there, but I would assume a lot of them that don't live in Cincinnati went home to visit with their families. Was he there at 5AM, because that's when Bell gets there to work out...

(11-25-2024, 10:52 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

How much does turning this season around matter to Joe Burrow?

Player parking lot was mostly empty when we showed up for Zac Taylor's bye week presser today.

Joe Burrow's car was there. #Bengals @fox19 pic.twitter.com/8jod47ZZwl

— Jeremy Rauch (@FOX19Jeremy) November 19, 2024

It's a shame

(11-25-2024, 01:19 PM)Sled21 Wrote: So "mostly." Not all the way. Or maybe they just weren't there when Jeremy was. I agree they all should have been there, but I would assume a lot of them that don't live in Cincinnati went home to visit with their families. Was he there at 5AM, because that's when Bell gets there to work out...

And it’s paid off so well.

(11-25-2024, 01:24 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: And it’s paid off so well.

He's getting old. I'm not saying he should not be replaced, but saying Bell does not care and does not show up to put in the work just doesn't fly. There's enough to complain about without making stuff up.

(11-25-2024, 01:31 PM)Sled21 Wrote: He's getting old. I'm not saying he should not be replaced, but saying Bell does not care and does not show up to put in the work just doesn't fly. There's enough to complain about without making stuff up.

No one made anything up. A beat reporter found it notable that Burrow was one of the only players there on that specific day. That’s literally it.

(11-25-2024, 01:37 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: No one made anything up. A beat reporter found it notable that Burrow was one of the only players there on that specific day. That’s literally it.

And do you think that beat reporter was there early in the morning? What time is Zac's presser, because I'm guessing it's not in the early morning when a lot of the players regularly come in. Did he ask? Did he ask if Joe left his car there? Did he mention it to Taylor?  He wants clicks.... if he was worth a crap as a beat reporter, he would have asked about it in the presser instead of making a social media comment without perspective.

This season is such an absolute disgusting disaster that this is what we are arguing over. lol.

Welcome the Brown Family Bengals.

(11-25-2024, 09:30 AM)Sled21 Wrote: I'm curious where you saw that, because I would be immensely surprised if it were true. I'd just about guarantee Vonn Bell was in there every day working out.

(11-25-2024, 02:37 PM)Sled21 Wrote: And do you think that beat reporter was there early in the morning? What time is Zac's presser, because I'm guessing it's not in the early morning when a lot of the players regularly come in. Did he ask? Did he ask if Joe left his car there? Did he mention it to Taylor?  He wants clicks.... if he was worth a crap as a beat reporter, he would have asked about it in the presser instead of making a social media comment without perspective.

*asks where someone saw something

*was given the source

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