(12-01-2024, 09:03 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

The Bengals defense just had its worst performance of the season across the board against a middle of the pack Steelers offense.

Coming off a bye week.

With the season on the line.

Against a division rival.

Complete revamp needed on this side of the ball. pic.twitter.com/oCaPHP1B1C

— Gridiron Grading (@GridironGrading) December 1, 2024

Still too high of a rating.

(12-01-2024, 09:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: BTW why is JN still closed?

This happened last game too.  I was curious last time if it was by design or if maybe some mod passed out from the drinking?

(12-01-2024, 09:05 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I think it's Holic forcing a cooldown period.

Makes sense. Hell I remember when JN was open during the game. Ironically enough it was a thread started by Flo Joe at halftime during a Steelers game that started the closed during the game rule

(12-01-2024, 09:07 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Still too high of a rating.

The OL will probably all be in the 30’s.

Lamar Jackson doesn’t look like no MVP today, only when he plays the Bengals. But who doesn’t, when they play us.

(12-01-2024, 07:45 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: Another positive spin for Zac Taylor, what a surprise. A 1 score game, and we were close.  

Tired of this same old story.

It's his thing. Keep selling that we're close. Make tweaks in offseason.

Fans buy tickets.

(12-01-2024, 09:10 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's his thing. Keep selling that we're close. Make tweaks in offseason.

Fans buy tickets.

Bet it doesn’t work next year, when season tickets go out. 2 years of getting worse and Fans will start to bail, no end in site for how far this team will fall.

(12-01-2024, 09:03 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

The Bengals defense just had its worst performance of the season across the board against a middle of the pack Steelers offense.

Coming off a bye week.

With the season on the line.

Against a division rival.

Complete revamp needed on this side of the ball. pic.twitter.com/oCaPHP1B1C

— Gridiron Grading (@GridironGrading) December 1, 2024

Yeah I've seen enough.  Lou is done and the defensive roster needs a mini-rebuild.  If you can't win games staked to 35 point leads, then you aren't doing your job as a DC.  Very few if any young players have developed well under his regime.  

He's gotten several day 1 or 2 picks to work with over the last few drafts.  Hill, CTB, Turner, Murphy.  The only one that was viable early on was CTB and he's regressed significantly.  You can't have that shit if you're trying to build a roster of young, affordable players to supplement the big money guys on offense.  By the time they are ready (if they miraculously don't suck), they'll. be up for extensions and playing in another city.  These guys don't have to be all-pros.  They just have to be decent enough to hold down a 38 point lead for feck's sake.  

If a system is too complicated for a young player to learn, for multiple years even, then it's a shit system.  At some point you have to be able to work with what you have.  Lou sucks horribly at working with what he has.  Jesse and DJ aren't walking through that door.  

I threw up in my mouth a little ever time Wilson completed that stupid little check down.  He did it all god damned day long, and they didn't adjust to shit.  5 yards here, 6 there, third and extremely manageable all day long.  The zone they run either sucks or the players suck at it, because no qb has had trouble finding holes in it.  Maybe try something else, Mr "change the picture".  

(12-01-2024, 09:15 PM)samhain Wrote: He's gotten several day 1 or 2 picks to work with over the last few drafts.

We've had 10 day 1&2 picks the last 3 drafts. The defense got 8 of those 10. 
3 of the 4 highest paid FA signings we've made the last two years were on defense, too.

(12-01-2024, 09:10 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's his thing. Keep selling that we're close. Make tweaks in offseason.

Fans buy tickets.

and the Brown family favorite of having a good QB/WR1 duo to keep fans interested.

(12-01-2024, 09:13 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: Bet it doesn’t work next year, when season tickets go out. 2 years of getting worse and Fans will start to bail, no end in site for how far this team will fall.

They raised prices this year.  By a lot.  

I ate it this year, but barring a decent start by the time renewal arrives (November), I'll be out.  

I don't care that Lou was the DC of the AFC Champion Bengals just a few seasons ago. It's time to move on from him.

(12-01-2024, 09:19 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: We've had 10 day 1&2 picks the last 3 drafts. The defense got 8 of those 10. 
3 of the 4 highest paid FA signings we've made the last two years were on defense, too.

I didn't have the actual numbers, but shit.

This isn't Marvin working with scraps and hoping to hit big on some mid round DL. This is a team that's consciously been trying to invest in it's defense with a semblance of a plan.  

The plan has failed.  It's time for a new plan with a new DC.

(12-01-2024, 09:20 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I don't care that Lou was the DC of the AFC Champion Bengals just a few seasons ago. It's time to move on from him.

And I'm fine with right now! This is a lost season

(12-01-2024, 09:20 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I don't care that Lou was the DC of the AFC Champion Bengals just a few seasons ago. It's time to move on from him.

Ancient history in NFL years. He’s been exposed without Bates.

(12-01-2024, 08:38 PM)Nepa Wrote: Very clear encroachment, drawing a reaction from the Bengals, as noted by the announcers. Clearly a penalty on Pittsburgh. A big deal, also. Bengals would have had a first down and likelihood of scoring points and ending the half. Instead, Pittsburgh was able to end the half by scoring points.

I was thinking all of the same when watching it but was waiting until I saw the replay/highlights to figure out if I was correct.

I'm sure we won't hear about it on any of the shows like NFL Game Day Finale or anything.

I didn't see Zac making any noise, which pisses me off, but not real surprising.

I could be wrong and maybe he was in the ref's ear but it was definitely obvious that the defender had caused our guy to jump.

(12-01-2024, 09:25 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ancient history in NFL years. He’s been exposed without Bates.

One guy is not going to fix this team, not even close

(12-01-2024, 09:25 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ancient history in NFL years. He’s been exposed without Bates.

Agreed, ancient history in the NFL and an AFC Championship is only fun celebrating leading up to the Super Bowl.

(12-01-2024, 09:26 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I was thinking all of the same when watching it but was waiting until I saw the replay/highlights to figure out if I was correct.

I'm sure we won't hear about it on any of the shows like NFL Game Day Finale or anything.

I didn't see Zac making any noise, which pisses me off, but not real surprising.

I could be wrong and maybe he was in the ref's ear but it was definitely obvious that the defender had caused our guy to jump.

You weren’t watching very closely. Taylor was definitely losing his mind over that call.

(12-01-2024, 09:26 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: One guy is not going to fix this team, not even close

Never said it would Bills fan. But the decline started when Bates left. He covered up a lot. Just like Chase does on offense.