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***pally*** · 12-15-2024, 07:50 PM

Sam said they believe he injured his PCL. He will have an MRI in the morning. The fear would be damage to other parts of the knee as PCL injuries often happen in tandem with other injuries

***TheLeonardLeap*** · 12-15-2024, 07:53 PM

Retirement

**BFritz21** · 12-15-2024, 07:57 PM

(12-15-2024, 07:50 PM)pally Wrote: Sam said they believe he injured his PCL. He will have an MRI in the morning. The fear would be damage to other parts of the knee as PCL injuries often happen in tandem with other injuries

Came on just to see about Sam.

That's sad and unfortunate.

We need to be at full strength going it not his stretch run if we need to win them all.

***bengalfan74*** · 12-15-2024, 08:52 PM

(12-15-2024, 07:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Retirement

I'd say it's time.

He's been a good player for us but it sure seems his best days are behind him.

**sandwedge** · 12-15-2024, 09:14 PM

(12-15-2024, 07:53 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Retirement

My favorite player on the team and I think you are right. It's been a thing with his legs the last couple of years

**Isaac Curtis: The Real #85** · 12-15-2024, 09:45 PM

(12-15-2024, 09:14 PM)sandwedge Wrote: My favorite player on the team and I think you are right. It's been a thing with his legs the last couple of years

Hope it os mild and he can recover fully. He has been playing through injury for a couple years. That can tend to cause breakdowns elsewhere.

Sam should get healthy. No rushing back.

Cappa, Rankins, and Pratt are guys I'd jettison for sure.

**sandwedge** · 12-15-2024, 10:23 PM

(12-15-2024, 09:45 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Hope it os mild and he can recover fully. He has been playing through injury for a couple years. That can tend to cause breakdowns elsewhere.

Sam should get healthy. No rushing back.

Cappa, Rankins, and Pratt are guys I'd jettison for sure.

Those 3 are at the top of the list.

**Nicomo Cosca** · 12-15-2024, 11:35 PM

It was a memorable last play from Sam if that was it in a Bengals uniform (it should be).

**Mgbrown66** · 12-16-2024, 01:59 PM

He has a face for TV. He should move on...

***ochocincos*** · 12-16-2024, 02:05 PM

(12-15-2024, 07:50 PM)pally Wrote: Sam said they believe he injured his PCL. He will have an MRI in the morning. The fear would be damage to other parts of the knee as PCL injuries often happen in tandem with other injuries

I'd rather not see Hubbard risk his career/next season by trying to play the rest of the season.
IMO whether the Bengals make the playoffs or not, ride or die with Murphy, Ossai, and Johnson.
This will be valuable development time for Murphy especially.

**Isaac Curtis: The Real #85** · 12-16-2024, 02:33 PM

I know many here want to cut Hubbard for his cap savings. And I think it is certainly a viable option.

But he still grades out as our 2nd best DE, behind Hendrickson, by a significant margin.

And Ossai is 3rd, and he is a FA.

**jj22** · 12-18-2024, 12:15 PM

Can they even cut Hubbard if injured (while injured)?

**TecmoBengals** · 12-18-2024, 01:09 PM

(12-18-2024, 12:15 PM)jj22 Wrote: Can they even cut Hubbard if injured (while injured)?

I frame the question as would they even cut Hubbard? Moeller to OSU to the Bengals is a total Cincinnati-Brown family-love fest type of thing. They might let him suit up until he's 52 so they can hype the home grown boy.

**Nicomo Cosca** · 12-18-2024, 01:16 PM

(12-18-2024, 01:09 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I frame the question as would they even cut Hubbard? Moeller to OSU to the Bengals is a total Cincinnati-Brown family-love fest type of thing. They might let him suit up until he's 52 so they can hype the home grown boy.

He’s one of Joe’s best friends, too. But I hope they make the right decision at the end of the day. It’s business.

**TecmoBengals** · 12-18-2024, 01:19 PM

(12-18-2024, 01:16 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He’s one of Joe’s best friends, too. But I hope they make the right decision at the end of the day. It’s business.

I'm all for giving player's respect as it improves the perception about the organization amongst players in the league, but ultimately the focus should be about putting together the best roster for the '25 season. If that excludes Hubbard, then I don't object.

**jj22** · 12-18-2024, 02:09 PM

(12-18-2024, 01:09 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I frame the question as would they even cut Hubbard? Moeller to OSU to the Bengals is a total Cincinnati-Brown family-love fest type of thing. They might let him suit up until he's 52 so they can hype the home grown boy.

I guess they can do an injury settlement if that is how those work. But I wasn't sure you can cut someone injured while under contract. But you right. With their relationship they may just let him start the year on PUP and ride out 2025 "week to week" on IR.

***Nate (formerly eliminate08)*** · 12-18-2024, 06:31 PM

Too bad for Sam, been a frustrating year for him for sure. Wish him the best if we do end up moving on from him, but I think if he can
get healthy he could still be good depth. Until Murphy shows something better he is still our 2nd best End. Nice TD catch BTW Sam. Wink

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