Anyone have the numbers on how long it's been since the Bengals had 2 1st team All-Pros in the same season?

(01-10-2025, 07:40 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Anyone have the numbers on how long it's been since the Bengals had 2 1st team All-Pros in the same season?

2015 - Whit and Geno

(01-10-2025, 07:25 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Strange, I am rooting for Josh over them Chiefs all day every day. His stats aren't nearly as good as Joe but Josh and the Bills can beat the 
Chiefs and I am hoping they do so. I don't understand how you cannot wait to see the Chiefs in the Super Bowl again. Dislike that team nearly
as much as the stealers.

I dont like the chiefs but this whole media push to make josh the mvp thing is ridiculous

(01-10-2025, 07:45 PM)Clark W Griswold Wrote: 2015 - Whit and Geno

Guess who the 2nd team All Pro QB was that year? Hint: he played for the Cardinals…

(01-10-2025, 07:46 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I dont like the chiefs but this whole media push to make josh the mvp thing is ridiculous

Yeah, Lamar or Saquon should be the MVP.

(01-10-2025, 07:50 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, Lamar or Saquon should be the MVP.

Lamar or Goff. Goff has great numbers with a great team. Lamar has the best stats overall and with a division winner

(01-10-2025, 07:52 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Lamar or Goff. Goff has great numbers with a great team. Lamar has the best stats overall and with a division winner

Surprised Goff hasn't been in the conversation honestly, good point.

Still, Saquon could of broke Dickerson's record if he played that last game. The MVP shouldn't be a solely QB award IMO.

(01-10-2025, 07:53 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Surprised Goff hasn't been in the conversation honestly, good point.

Still, Saquon could of broke Dickerson's record if he played that last game. The MVP shouldn't be a solely QB award IMO.

He might have, but he also could have broke his leg.. He still has a shot at most yards in a season+playoffs, and if his team win the Superbowl, that will likely mean much more to him.

(01-10-2025, 07:53 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Surprised Goff hasn't been in the conversation honestly, good point.

I know! The media and vegas has ignored him for no reason.

2nd in passer rating, 2nd in yards, 4th in passing touchdowns, 2nd in completion percentage. Oh, and the 1 seed

It's actually illogical. And so many people are ignoring Goff in favor of josh allen. It boggles the mind

(01-10-2025, 07:57 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I know! The media and vegas has ignored him for no reason.

2nd in passer rating, 2nd in yards, 4th in passing touchdowns, 2nd in completion percentage. Oh, and the 1 seed

It's actually illogical. And so many people are ignoring Goff in favor of josh allen. It boggles the mind

Well, you know, Allen is younger, prettier, and is rumored to have a nice rack. The media isn't going to get behind a guy who couldn't get over the hump in LA, one of the biggest media markets in the Nation. When LA traded him to Detroit, the media washed their hands of Jarred Goff.

Congrats to both guys. Weird JB has the best season but doesn’t make it and largely discounted for MVP. Crappy system.

(01-10-2025, 07:57 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: And so many people are ignoring Goff in favor of josh allen.

I think Goff gets slightly dinged by voters because he is surrounded by so much talent. Same reason as Brock Purdy last year.

Of the other starting 10 on offense for the Lions, 6 of them have been in a Pro Bowl/2nd Team All-Pro/1st Team All-Pro in the last two years.


If you put any stock in PFF ranks (in this case is largely matches up with the eye test)...
6th RB + 11th RB
6th WR + 32nd WR + 67th WR
11th TE
5th OT + 22nd OT
3rd G + 54th G
3rd C

Burrow might put up 60 points a game with that level of talent and coaching around him.

(01-10-2025, 08:19 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I think Goff gets slightly dinged by voters because he is surrounded by so much talent. Same reason as Brock Purdy last year.

Of the other starting 10 on offense for the Lions, 6 of them have been in a Pro Bowl/2nd Team All-Pro/1st Team All-Pro in the last two years.


If you put any stock in PFF ranks (in this case is largely matches up with the eye test)...
6th RB + 11th RB
6th WR + 32nd WR + 67th WR
11th TE
5th OT + 22nd OT
3rd G + 54th G
3rd C

I think there was hesitation with purdy because he's a 7th rounder and people know the shanahan system is a real thing.

but im not buying the surrounding talent excuse. Lamar has a tremendous amount help around him as well. 

And Goff isnt like purdy. Goff is a 1st rounder with past experience of good ball on his resume

(01-10-2025, 04:54 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Shouldn't matter for All-Pro.
All-Pro has always been about individual performance (I thought).
We've seen dudes make All-Pro who were on losing teams before.
I guess only QBs are judged on wins and losses, eh? :)

Shouldn't matter, but that's not what you asked.

(01-10-2025, 03:15 PM)Nepa Wrote: I don't know who in the Bengals front office decided it was good to wait until this offseason to finalize Chase's extension, but that person should be fired immediately. Triple Crown. Unanimous all-pro.

We can’t forget that Trey is also unhappy with his contract

Chase and Jettas were the only unanimous first team selections. Perfect 50/50.

The list of Bengals who are x4 Pro Bowlers and x1 All-Pro:

OT Anthony Muñoz
DT Geno Atkins
WR Chad Johnson
QB Ken Anderson
TE Bob Trumpy
OT Willie Anderson
**DE Trey Hendrickson**
** WR Ja'Marr Chase**

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