Malik Wright wants us to go after Risner. He had a 67 PFF this year and a 57 in run blocking he's as bad as what we already have. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir300sHZIFU&t=16s

I liked Risner for us years ago, but those ratings are pretty bad. Give me James Daniels or Trey Smith in FA.

Just like Nate said, I liked Risner better a few years ago. If the team makes a move for a free agent Guard, I hope they shoot for the moon and go after Trey Smith. Then, when Joe needs a yard and a half on a QB sneak, it'll be there.

I don't want any FA lineman until we have a OL coach.

(01-17-2025, 06:15 PM)Stewy Wrote: I don't want any FA lineman until e have a OL coach.

Get the cook then get the groceries 

(01-17-2025, 06:15 PM)Stewy Wrote: I don't want any FA lineman until e have a OL coach.

They haven't even interviewed a potential OL coach yet. They better get this train a rollin' because free agency is 6 weeks away.

(01-17-2025, 06:10 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Just like Nate said, I liked Risner better a few years ago. If the team makes a move for a free agent Guard, I hope they shoot for the moon and go after Trey Smith. Then, when Joe needs a yard and a half on a QB sneak, it'll be there.

I don't disagree but I think they'll go after a pass rusher and then sign a couple mid tier OG's.  Teven Jenkins   James Daniels and Will Fries should all be in their range.

(01-17-2025, 06:23 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: They haven't even interviewed a potential OL coach yet. They better get this train a rollin' because free agency is 6 weeks away.

maybe they are bringing ND's OL coach with Golden

(01-17-2025, 06:25 PM)pulses Wrote: maybe they are bringing ND's OL coach with Golden

That sure would make me much happier if Golden is our next DC....

(01-17-2025, 06:25 PM)pulses Wrote: maybe they are bringing ND's OL coach with Golden

The ND offensive line has been decimated with injuries, just had 2 more against Penn State. The OL coach has developed players, and they are the championship game. Ohio State will likely expose them Monday, they have exposed very good heathy OL like Texas.

I have to say as a fan, their OL coach gets an A+. Can he apply it in the NFL?

(01-17-2025, 06:42 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The ND offensive line has been decimated with injuries, just had 2 more against Penn State. The OL coach has developed players, and they are the championship game. Ohio State will likely expose them Monday, they have exposed very good heathy OL like Texas.

I have to say as a fan, their OL coach gets an A+. Can he apply it in the NFL?

Sure would give him a shot at it. So many great OL have came out of ND in the last 10 years or so. I dare say more than any other college team.

He'll be 30 for 2025. Risner would be a band-aid, not a solution, and not even a brand-name one but a generic one that doesn't stick but somehow still leaves behind a weird residue on your skin.

Better than Volson or Cappa, but not enough, and not for long.

OL coach at ND is Joe Rudolf. He has only been there 2 years. He was a pro OL and has a mixture of college and pro experience. Maybe Bengals re waiting to interview him after NCG Monday. His resume looks pretty impressive.

https://fightingirish.com/coach/joe-rudolph/

PLAYING CAREER

1991-94 Wisconsin (Offensive Line)
1995 Philadelphia Eagles (Offensive Line)
1997 San Francisco 49ers (Offensive Line)
COACHING CAREER

2004-05 Ohio State Graduate Assistant
2006 Ohio State Strength Coordinator
2007 Nebraska Tight Ends
2008-11 Wisconsin Tight Ends
2012-14 Pittsburgh Offensive Coordinator/Tight Ends
2015-20 Wisconsin Associate Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line
2021 Wisconsin Associate Head Coach/Run Game Coordinator/Offensive Line
2022 Virginia Tech Run Game Coordinator/Offensive Line
2023-current Notre Dame Joe Moore Offensive Line Coach

Zeitler is also a free agent. How about a 3 year contract at 21 million with 10 million guaranteed. It would be a million more per year than he is making now, it would be a 3 year contract and the 10 million guaranteed would be what we would have paid Cappa next year although cutting Cappa would only save 8 million due to dead cap. I wouldnt mind bringing Zeitler back regardless of his age. The question is does Detroit let him get away before signing him to an extension?

I wouldn’t mind him as depth or as a placeholder for a top 100 draft pick. But I’m aiming for bigger fish for the IOL on day 1 and 2 of free agency, if I’m the Bengals. I doubt Philly lets Becton hit the market. Not so sure Trey Smith hits free agency either. Does Pittsburg allow Daniels to test the market? Isn’t Jenkins one of the Bears only decent offensive linemen? Do they let him test the market? If ANY of those guys do hit free agency, the Bengals need to not sit on their hands and sign the guy who best fits what the new offensive line coach wants to do ASAP.

(01-17-2025, 05:57 PM)pulses Wrote: Malik Wright wants us to go after Risner. He had a 67 PFF this year and a 57 in run blocking he's as bad as what we already have. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir300sHZIFU&t=16s

Those grades are actually significantly better than what we have now. 

But I'd aim higher. Teven Jenkins at LG and one of Smith, Daniels, Zeitler, FrIes, or Becton at RG. 

(01-17-2025, 06:23 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: They haven't even interviewed a potential OL coach yet. They better get this train a rollin' because free agency is 6 weeks away.

I think they have made informal interviews and have been requesting. Saw something on Twitter that they talked to a couple (or maybe it was that the names were brought up as two that they WOULD speak to) or something.

(01-17-2025, 06:42 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The ND offensive line has been decimated with injuries, just had 2 more against Penn State. The OL coach has developed players, and they are the championship game. Ohio State will likely expose them Monday, they have exposed very good heathy OL like Texas.

I have to say as a fan, their OL coach gets an A+. Can he apply it in the NFL?

Well.  You're the die hard ND fan.  Do some research and give us a deep dive on him!  

(01-18-2025, 12:58 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: I think they have made informal interviews and have been requesting. Saw something on Twitter that they talked to a couple (or maybe it was that the names were brought up as two that they WOULD speak to) or something.

Yeah, the only thing that I've ran across was one of those speculatory/suggestive pieces saying who they might/should look at. I think that Doug Marrone was the only NFL guy on the list.

(01-17-2025, 05:57 PM)pulses Wrote: Malik Wright wants us to go after Risner. He had a 67 PFF this year and a 57 in run blocking he's as bad as what we already have. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir300sHZIFU&t=16s

...What?

Risner has a 76.2 pass blocking grade.
He had 0 sacks and 16 total pressures allowed on 537 offensive snaps.

Volson:
49.4 pass block grade, 65.6 RB grade.
6 sacks and 43 total pressures allowed on 984 offensive snaps.

Cappa:
39.7 pass block grade, 54.9 RB grade.
8 sacks and 51 total pressures allowed on 1132 offensive snaps.

If you took the pressures allowed per snap and multiplied by the number of snaps Cappa played, Risner would have potentially had about 33-34, which would have been significantly lower than both Volson and Cappa.

Risner may be about the same caliber run blocking wise, but pass blocking he is head and shoulders above these other guys.
And we primarily want great pass blocking with the offense the Bengals run.

Risner is without a doubt an upgrade, and a budget one at that.