Let’s just keep Gesicki!

(01-17-2025, 04:37 PM)Whatever Wrote: But Hudson has great ball security...

Too soon, sorry.

And sure is a favorite of Truck's....

(01-17-2025, 04:39 PM)kurisu Wrote: Let’s just keep Gesicki!

I agree. I think Mike will just get better with Burrow in year 2 in the system and with more trust.

Watch him go to KC with a Kelce retirement.

(01-17-2025, 04:26 PM)jason Wrote: No!

Already got em. 





Time to blast em off.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was tomorrow's batch. I'll be back to shoot off some later days, later. 

At what point do you call it like it is?  Pitts just isnt as good as his hype.  Some claim the Atlanta passing game is to fault.  Atlanta had the #5 passing offense in the NFL this year so obviously they did pretty good throwing the ball.  Do you really think they were just ignoring him?  If you cant put up the numbers in a top 5 NFL passing offense whose fault is that?  It seems like its everyones fault but Pitts when other guys had no problem producing.

(01-17-2025, 06:04 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: At what point do you call it like it is?  Pitts just isnt as good as his hype.  Some claim the Atlanta passing game is to fault.  Atlanta had the #5 passing offense in the NFL this year so obviously they did pretty good throwing the ball.  Do you really think they were just ignoring him?  If you cant put up the numbers in a top 5 NFL passing offense whose fault is that?  It seems like its everyones fault but Pitts when other guys had no problem producing.

Pitts must of been dropping balls in practice or something. I saw him open many times in games and whether it was Cousins or Penix they
instead went to Drake London most of the time the sure handed top WR for the Falcons.

(01-17-2025, 02:54 PM)schroomytunes Wrote: Hard no from me! We can sign Gesicki back for less $$$ than that and still hold onto our draft pick, and sign another role player for that same 10 million. I'm thinking we trade back in the 1st round this year to gain an additional 2nd or 3rd anyway, so I think we are going to value draft spots to address the trenches this year.

So, I guess we can put you down as a big fan of Mike Brown's bargain shopping deals from over the years? 

I could see us trading for him if we lost both Higgins and Mike G.

(01-17-2025, 04:39 PM)kurisu Wrote: Let’s just keep Gesicki!

Right. If we trading let's hope the focus is on DT prospects given the FA pool. 

(01-17-2025, 06:04 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: At what point do you call it like it is?  Pitts just isnt as good as his hype.  Some claim the Atlanta passing game is to fault.  Atlanta had the #5 passing offense in the NFL this year so obviously they did pretty good throwing the ball.  Do you really think they were just ignoring him?  If you cant put up the numbers in a top 5 NFL passing offense whose fault is that?  It seems like its everyones fault but Pitts when other guys had no problem producing.

I mean, he was 13th among TE's in receiving yards.  He did produce, but again, not at the elite levels projected.  

(01-17-2025, 06:44 PM)Whatever Wrote: I mean, he was 13th among TE's in receiving yards.  He did produce, but again, not at the elite levels projected.  

I dont think he is a bad TE at all.  He is good.  He is just not the generational TE everyone thought he was going to be coming out of the draft.  I wouldnt count on him being a #2 option.  If you let Tee walk, you cant think Pitts is going to be a replacement #2.  If you keep Tee, you cant pay Burrow, Chase, Higgins and then use a draft pick to trade for Pitts and then pay him 10 million per year as your 3rd option.

(01-17-2025, 04:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: espn eh?

Not happening even if I would love to have Kyle Pitts on the Bengals as I think he has been used wrong his entire time on the Falcons.

If we could get Pitts here and use him like we do Gesicki he could blow up the league.

We can trade for him, but I feel like a dude taken at #4 overall should have been way more productive regardless of how they "used him" since the Falcons have been nothing but garbage time his entire career.  I get John Ross vibes from the guy, basically you can complain the system and the coaches kept him down, but a guy taken with a premium pick should force himself into relevance through sheer ability alone.

(01-18-2025, 04:05 PM)Nately120 Wrote: We can trade for him, but I feel like a dude taken at #4 overall should have been way more productive regardless of how they "used him" since the Falcons have been nothing but garbage time his entire career.  I get John Ross vibes from the guy, basically you can complain the system and the coaches kept him down, but a guy taken with a premium pick should force himself into relevance through sheer ability alone.

He is averaging just 2 yards less per season in his career than Mike Gesicki got this year that had people all excited and hyped up for wanting to keep him despite knowing that Joe Burrow has been giving TEs massive performance bumps for 4 years now (how's Hayden Hurst and CJ Uzomah doing post-Burrow?).

If you look at per 17 games (he had one injury in his 2nd year where he missed 7 games) then he's averaging 739 yards, an average which would be the highest total for a single season a Bengals TE has had since Bob Trumpy in 1969 pre-NFL.

He was a bust as far as the #4 pick goes, but if he was the #30, he would be considered a success. Throwing him in with John Ross, who physically could not catch a football, is some outright disrespectful shit, Nately. Lol

(01-17-2025, 04:19 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Could someone please take Brad's exclamation points away from him. Thx 

Let Brad be Brad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is interesting that a Move TE which has a $10.8M guaranteed salary for 2025 is being speculated as a trade target for the Bengals. Gisecki produced similar numbers for a quarter of the salary. But, Gesicki will get ~ $7-8M annually next year.

If Pitts agrees to an extension, and understands that he is not producing at $10.8M, and is willing to give some of it back over the extension - then I think the Bengals would bite.

So basically, he would have to agree to a 4 year $24M extension before the trade is done. The overall payout for the 5 years would be around $35M, with annual average of $7M.

It is time that the Bengals stop the revolving door at TE and get a gifted, talented guy that may excel with a change of scenery.

(01-17-2025, 07:42 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I dont think he is a bad TE at all.  He is good.  He is just not the generational TE everyone thought he was going to be coming out of the draft.  I wouldnt count on him being a #2 option.  If you let Tee walk, you cant think Pitts is going to be a replacement #2.  If you keep Tee, you cant pay Burrow, Chase, Higgins and then use a draft pick to trade for Pitts and then pay him 10 million per year as your 3rd option.

Has he ever had the opportunity to catch passes from a franchise QB like Joe Burrow?

(01-18-2025, 04:18 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: He is averaging just 2 yards less per season in his career than Mike Gesicki got this year that had people all excited and hyped up for wanting to keep him despite knowing that Joe Burrow has been giving TEs massive performance bumps for 4 years now (how's Hayden Hurst and CJ Uzomah doing post-Burrow?).

If you look at per 17 games (he had one injury in his 2nd year where he missed 7 games) then he's averaging 739 yards, an average which would be the highest total for a single season a Bengals TE has had since Bob Trumpy in 1969 pre-NFL.

He was a bust as far as the #4 pick goes, but if he was the #30, he would be considered a success. Throwing him in with John Ross, who physically could not catch a football, is some outright disrespectful shit, Nately. Lol

Exactly. Everybody is looking at him as a top ten bust instead of looking at his upside and seeing the he's a good player that could do big things in opening up our offense.

(01-18-2025, 07:11 PM)Speedy Thomas Wrote: Let Brad be Brad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's how I roll!!!

(01-18-2025, 07:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Has he ever had the opportunity to catch passes from a franchise QB like Joe Burrow?

That's exactly what I've been saying all along, and also look at the fact that he's never had a receiver like Chase on the outside drawing coverage out of the middle of the field. 

Imagine him one-on-one with a backer or safety and I'll take that with Burrow throwing him the ball all day.

(01-18-2025, 07:47 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Has he ever had the opportunity to catch passes from a franchise QB like Joe Burrow?

He had 1 year from Matty Ice and went for over 1,000 yards.


Folks like to do what-ifs: Would Jamar have his same numbers if ATL had taken him at #4? 

Getting Kyle Pitts and extending him to reasonable terms would be huge. Coming out, he was compared to Megatron in terms of size, speed and receiving ability.

At 6'6", 250lbs and 4.44 speed - he is a matchup nightmare. Also, he has lined up both as a slot and outside receiver in NFL. I think in his rookie year, he lined up 25% of the time as a WR. Then he got injured the second year, and has been in an average production mode since then.

Questions are whether he would be willing to extend at a reasonable number annually and also, would a seventh rounder be acceptable with the Falcons.