This  is the draft to trade him. If we can get a first….. and more. For the league leading sack artist. 

Has there ever been a player with 17 sacks on a worse defense? I struggling for a reason why I’d miss those 17 sacks. The savvy move is to trade Hendrickson a year early at his highest value and commit to this rebuild on D.

Tee at least home grown and if I had to choose between the two it’s Tee.

Y’all think without Trey we lose games 74-48? 

(02-05-2025, 10:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: This  is the draft to trade him. If we can get a first….. and more. For the league leading sack artist...

The reason they brought in Hendrickson in the first place is because the Bengals front office has one of the worst scouting departments in the NFL and they need to bring in proven free agents because they do such a bad job drafting these guys.

If the Bengals trade Hendrickson for a 1st round pick who do you think they are going to draft to replace him?   If you get another Myles Murphy type DE, how bad is the defense going to be next season?  As bad as the #25 ranked defense was this year, they could very easily get worse.  We need to be adding more talent to the defense, not losing it.  It should be no surprise to anyone that as the Bengals management has let the talent leave from the Super Bowl and AFCC defense, the defense has become worse.

Figured that this thread was as good as any to share an update on the Hendrickson extension situation. He says that they've had some good conversations, and reiterates that he wants to remain a Bengal.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/trey-hendrickson-shares-update-on-contract-talks-with-bengals-we-ve-had-multiple-good-conversations/ar-AA1zHx7Q?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f988db0052954a0af2a7e41633d795ed&ei=10

Quote:CINCINNATI — Bengals defensive end Trey Hendrickson wants a new contract after leading the league in sacks (17.5) and having an All-Pro season in 2024.

The 30-year-old shared an update about negotiations with the Bengals during an appearance on the Ross Tucker Podcast.

"We've had multiple good conversations," Hendrickson said. "It's just actions speak louder than words. That's how I play my game as well, even though I am a trash talker."

Hendrickson echoed the same "pay me or trade me" sentiment that he shared earlier this month.

"Moving forward I would like to remain a Bengal," Hendrickson said. "Some things in life like long-term security, being able to tell my wife where we're going to raise our son and not have to worry about playing a violent sport and shifting of where we're going—that would be ideal."

Tucker mentioned how tough it is to negotiate with the Bengals, but Hendrickson cut him off and defended the franchise. He also made it clear how much he loves the coaching staff, the front office and he certainly wants to be in Cincinnati.

"They've taken such great care of me though," Hendrickson said. "It was also like that in free agency. They had to take a chance and believe in me. I don't want that to go underappreciated because we do have this little uncomfortable business negotiations. They've taken care of me off the field as well, with my wife they've been so supportive. They've taken good care of me."

Hendrickson has 35 sacks combined over the past two seasons. Signing a two-year extension would make sense—especially if the Bengals would get him a significant bonus that would bolster his salary for the 2025 season

The trades you mentioned are extremely hard to execute. I voted extend him. He earned a raise and it is a good precedent for our FO to show we reward performance, but we will cut players who underperform like Rankins and hopefully more to come.

(02-24-2025, 05:01 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Figured that this thread was as good as any to share an update on the Hendrickson extension situation. He says that they've had some good conversations, and reiterates that he wants to remain a Bengal.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/trey-hendrickson-shares-update-on-contract-talks-with-bengals-we-ve-had-multiple-good-conversations/ar-AA1zHx7Q?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f988db0052954a0af2a7e41633d795ed&ei=10

He is praising in an era when negotiations can get ugly, he praises the Bengals FO. Many fans like to throw our leaders under the bus, maybe this can give them some context, FO is not as bad as they attempt to portray them. I am not saying they are close to perfect, but it sure seems like Treu wants to be a Bengal until he retires.

(02-24-2025, 05:31 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The trades you mentioned are extremely hard to execute. I voted extend him. He earned a raise and it is a good precedent for our FO to show we reward performance, but we will cut players who underperform like Rankins and hopefully more to come.

How so?( on the trades)

I do think it was interesting, Tucker tried to go negative with the organization and Trey immediately jumped in to point out they took a chance on him in FA last time round and he doesn't want this moment of uncomfortableness to overshadow how well they have taken care of him.

(02-24-2025, 05:47 PM)J24 Wrote: How so?( on the trades)

Did you adjust your post and remove your proposed trades? I thought I saw Suace Gardner as one of your trades. If so, no way Jets would trade Gardner who costs less and is a top cover CB for Trey. He is youngerm plays a premium position and they can lock him up for years on team friendly deals. 

(02-24-2025, 06:19 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Did you adjust your post and remove your proposed trades? I thought I saw Suace Gardner as one of your trades. If so, no way Jets would trade Gardner who costs less and is a top cover CB for Trey. He is youngerm plays a premium position and they can lock him up for years on team friendly deals. 

That was one one of the proposed trades but the op was originally from a month or two ago. When it was rumored that Gardner wanted out.

The other 2 were Jessie Bates and Kerby Joseph. I don't think Detroit or Atlanta when mind those trades.

A trade for picks still makes plenty of sense though!

(02-24-2025, 05:47 PM)J24 Wrote: How so?( on the trades)

I can't speak for Luvnit2, but from what I've been hearing on NFL Radio, guys aren't going to be fetching the draft capital that they have via trades in recent years. Their reasoning for that is the size of the contracts that it will require to get the player to agree to the trade have grown so much with most good veterans having no-trade clauses in the their existing contracts.

(02-05-2025, 10:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: This  is the draft to trade him. If we can get a first….. and more. For the league leading sack artist. 

Has there ever been a player with 17 sacks on a worse defense? I struggling for a reason why I’d miss those 17 sacks. The savvy move is to trade Hendrickson a year early at his highest value and commit to this rebuild on D.

Tee at least home grown and if I had to choose between the two it’s Tee.

Y’all think without Trey we lose games 74-48? 

I don't want to trade Hendrickson myself but if it was or is between him or Tee I want to keep Tee. It does seem like for being either the sack leader or tied the past 2 seasons that he is a little low on the big impact plays like strip sacks for instance. Not saying that's a reason to trade him but it is a reason why losing him might not be that much of an impact. 

I think the savy move this year would be to trade back to the end of the 1st round. Seems to be alot of really good day 2 players and if we could pick up an extra 2nd that could really change our draft outlook.

(02-24-2025, 07:38 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I don't want to trade Hendrickson myself but if it was or is between him or Tee I want to keep Tee. It does seem like for being either the sack leader or tied the past 2 seasons that he is a little low on the big impact plays like strip sacks for instance. Not saying that's a reason to trade him but it is a reason why losing him might not be that much of an impact. 

I think the savy move this year would be to trade back to the end of the 1st round. Seems to be alot of really good day 2 players and if we could pick up an extra 2nd that could really change our draft outlook.

You're really willing to keep a player at a position that the Bengals draft well at, over the league leader at a position that chronically don't pick well at? I'll use 2010 as a reference point, because that was the year they drafted Geno Atkins, who was a talented DT who could get to the QB regularly. Since then, the Bengals have drafted AJ Green, Tyler Boyd, Marvin Jones Jr., Mo Sanu, Tee Higgins and JaMarr Chase, all very good WRs at their given roles. How many sack artists have the Bengals drafted since then? I'll end the suspense, the answer is Zero.

I'm not trying to be a jackass, but the point is that the Bengals didn't miss out on the playoffs due to offensive shortcomings, it was the lack of defense.

(02-24-2025, 07:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You're really willing to keep a player at a position that the Bengals draft well at, over the league leader at a position that chronically don't pick well at? I'll use 2010 as a reference point, because that was the year they drafted Geno Atkins, who was a talented DT who could get to the QB regularly. Since then, the Bengals have drafted AJ Green, Tyler Boyd, Marvin Jones Jr., Mo Sanu, Tee Higgins and JaMarr Chase, all very good WRs at their given roles. How many sack artists have the Bengals drafted since then? I'll end the suspense, the answer is Zero.

I'm not trying to be a jackass, but the point is that the Bengals didn't miss out on the playoffs due to offensive shortcomings, it was the lack of defense.

I did say I didn't want to trade him myself. But I guess i just think Tee would have a bigger impact leaving the offense than Trey would leaving the defense. I was more just trying to argue points to why I could agree. You make some good points as well and while I think we draft heavy on the dline it will be an especially young group that would need a veteran leader.

(02-24-2025, 07:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You're really willing to keep a player at a position that the Bengals draft well at, over the league leader at a position that chronically don't pick well at?

Everyone knows that 1st Team All-Pro DE1s coming off back-to-back 17.5 sack seasons are more replaceable than 0x Pro Bowl WR2s coming off back-to-back sub-1k seasons, Sunset.  

now do same thread for tamaurice

(02-24-2025, 07:33 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I can't speak for Luvnit2, but from what I've been hearing on NFL Radio, guys aren't going to be fetching the draft capital that they have via trades in recent years. Their reasoning for that is the size of the contracts that it will require to get the player to agree to the trade have grown so much with most good veterans having no-trade clauses in the their existing contracts.

With the cap going up by an extreme margin each season I doubt that's the case.

(02-24-2025, 10:00 PM)J24 Wrote: With the cap going up by an extreme margin each season I doubt that's the case.

It's not just free agents demanding bigger deals with the increase in cap, it's all players across the board. What's significant about the vets with the no-trade clause, is they get to effectively hold an interested team over a barrel in order to accept the trade. Hopefully the world takes notice of how the Aaron Rodgers to the Jets thing worked out.

(02-24-2025, 10:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It's not just free agents demanding bigger deals with the increase in cap, it's all players across the board. What's significant about the vets with the no-trade clause, is they get to effectively hold an interested team over a barrel in order to accept the trade. Hopefully the world takes notice of how the Aaron Rodgers to the Jets thing worked out.

Trey has a no trade clause?

(02-24-2025, 10:18 PM)J24 Wrote: Trey has a no trade clause?

Most "upper tier" players do, it would actually surprise me if he didn't.

(02-24-2025, 07:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You're really willing to keep a player at a position that the Bengals draft well at, over the league leader at a position that chronically don't pick well at? I'll use 2010 as a reference point, because that was the year they drafted Geno Atkins, who was a talented DT who could get to the QB regularly. Since then, the Bengals have drafted AJ Green, Tyler Boyd, Marvin Jones Jr., Mo Sanu, Tee Higgins and JaMarr Chase, all very good WRs at their given roles. How many sack artists have the Bengals drafted since then? I'll end the suspense, the answer is Zero.

I'm not trying to be a jackass, but the point is that the Bengals didn't miss out on the playoffs due to offensive shortcomings, it was the lack of defense.

You realize that in the last, almost decade, they have drafted exactly 2 quality WRs. You left out Sam Hubbard, who could be comparable to a Boyd… at least sanu.

The bengals were 8-4 last year in games Tee played.

They are 35-19 since 2021, in games he plays. He makes a difference.

Obviously the defense was bad, but it isn’t a huge lift to go from 30th to middle of the road, especially with a new DC. It happens every year (see Washington)