(5 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: Maybe not worth it if you don't agree with extending Tee, but we are definitely at the point of FA where there is on one else to spend the money on except maybe Jenkins who misses just as much time as Tee so that is that.

I wasn't for extending Tee when I wanted the money to go elsewhere, but that kind of money isn't going elsewhere for sure now.... And it has to be spent.

12 million on Teven Jenkins  6 million on Scherff and 12 million on Cooper Kupp......tag and trade Tee for picks and let's roll.  Cupp is not as good as he once was but still very good.....Jenkins would be a HUGE upgrade and so would Scherff.... and then I'd throw another 5 million at Ojulari.....plus whatever capital you get for Tee.

The sooner the better.

(4 hours ago)pulses Wrote: 12 million on Teven Jenkins  6 million on Scherff and 12 million on Cooper Kupp......tag and trade Tee for picks and let's roll.  Cupp is not as good as he once was but still very good.....Jenkins would be a HUGE upgrade and so would Scherff.... and then I'd throw another 5 million at Ojulari.....plus whatever capital you get for Tee.

I can't argue with this.... If I believed it was an alternative. 

In reality they'd just roll the money over to prepare for Mims extension. 

(5 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: Maybe this is why they dropped out of the Jenkins sweepstakes.

Who says that they did? They could have him in over the weekend and maybe he never visits Seattle.

(6 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Tomorrow's headline:  "Micah Parsons sets NFL record for non-QB in both AAV and Guarantees"

And then quibbling over minor details rather than getting a deal done already means they have to yet again start re-negotiating all the numbers in the Chase contract.

Tomorrow's headline: Chase and Tee each agree to league minimum, both convinced if they take ultra friendly deals the Bengals will go all-in on free agents and they can win a super bowl and then make $650,000,000 worth of insurance commercials.  Bengals' GM, Mike Brown, could not be reached for comment as he likely has already unplugged the rotary phone that he uses to field free agency and trade deadline calls.

(4 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: I can't argue with this.... If I believed it was an alternative. 

In reality they'd just roll the money over to prepare for Mims extension. 

They've got a few years to worry about a Mims extension and he's still unproven at this point. He's going in the right direction but they don't always stay that way as we know.

(4 hours ago)pulses Wrote: 12 million on Teven Jenkins  6 million on Scherff and 12 million on Cooper Kupp......tag and trade Tee for picks and let's roll.  Cupp is not as good as he once was but still very good.....Jenkins would be a HUGE upgrade and so would Scherff.... and then I'd throw another 5 million at Ojulari.....plus whatever capital you get for Tee.

Pretty sure Ojulari got signed by some other team but could be wrong.

Agree on Jenkins and Scherff, Kupp is injured a lot but if he can stay healthy he would be much cheaper than Tee.

(5 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I hope both deals end up with us having them under contract for next 5 years.

So a 4 year extension for Tee and a 5 year contract for Tee.

Damn, two Tee's?? Are they at least going to take turns being injured? 

(6 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's interesting. Could the Bengals really pay $71 million a year for 2 WR's?

I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s not going to be 71M cap hit each year. But let’s say they eat up 15% of the cap. They equate for about 70% of the total offense.

(4 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Pretty sure Ojulari got signed by some other team but could be wrong.

Agree on Jenkins and Scherff, Kupp is injured a lot but if he can stay healthy he would be much cheaper than Tee.

Ojulari is still a FA but I read the eagles have their eyes on him.......figures

(4 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: I can't argue with this.... If I believed it was an alternative. 

In reality they'd just roll the money over to prepare for Mims extension. 

Maybe Jenkins hasn't signed yet because we told him we're getting Chase and Tee done and then we'll get him a deal done as well.

I would love to hear from Taylor/Pitcher on the focus of the offense for 2025.

If it's still heavy pass-focused, prioritize getting a guard (or guards) who can pass block well.
There are still a few out there who can.

If it's trying to be more balanced and bolster the running game, get a guard who can run block (or ideally do both).
There are some out there.

But don't get someone who can't pass block but turn around and expect to be so pass-heavy.
We're just going to end up frustrated again.
Same thing if they force to be more balanced and the guy can't run block.

(4 hours ago)Ell Prez Wrote: I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s not going to be 71M cap hit each year. But let’s say they eat up 15% of the cap. They equate for about 70% of the total offense.

Actually got curious when I saw you say this, so...

40.8% of the offensive yards/50.0% of the offensive TDs in 2024
32.3% of the offensive yards/30.8% of the offensive TDs in 2023

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(This isn't me making a point, this is just me purely sharing stats after I got curious and looked it up.)

(6 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's interesting. Could the Bengals really pay $71 million a year for 2 WR's?

Could have been 60/year if they wouldn’t have dicked around last offseason. Mike, Katie, and Troy are inept, period.

My personal gut feel, but I worry that by investing this much into pass catchers, it's going to take away too much from the trenches and the Bengals are going to become like the Miami Dolphins and will end up being stuck as a perennial cusp team or WC team who can't get over the hump.

(4 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: Damn, two Tee's?? Are they at least going to take turns being injured? 

I blame it on old age. 

They are having a conversation. Tee says sign the deal, other Tee says hold out for more. Conversation has been going on for 3 years. 

(4 hours ago)pulses Wrote: Ojulari is still a FA but I read the eagles have their eyes on him.......figures

Oh, thought he got picked up by somebody. We talked to Ojulari, maybe they thought we only needed one pass rusher and kept 
Ossai instead because they know Trey will be back. Still, I think we need another pass rusher in case Murphy or Cedric Johnson 
don't make the jump. I like Cam Sample but Ojulari is currently better than all these guys except Trey.

(4 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: My personal gut feel, but I worry that by investing this much into pass catchers, it's going to take away too much from the trenches and the Bengals are going to become like the Miami Dolphins and will end up being stuck as a perennial cusp team or WC team who can't get over the hump.

Could happen unless our new trench coaches can coach up our trenches big time.

(4 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Oh, thought he got picked up by somebody. We talked to Ojulari, maybe they thought we only needed one pass rusher and kept 
Ossai instead because they know Trey will be back. Still, I think we need another pass rusher in case Murphy or Cedric Johnson 
don't make the jump. I like Cam Sample but Ojulari is currently better than all these guys except Trey.


Could happen unless our new trench coaches can coach up our trenches big time.

I think Cedric Johnson is the real sleeper of the bunch.

(4 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: My personal gut feel, but I worry that by investing this much into pass catchers, it's going to take away too much from the trenches and the Bengals are going to become like the Miami Dolphins and will end up being stuck as a perennial cusp team or WC team who can't get over the hump.

Difference is the QB so they should be better than the Dolphins going forward. The Bengals WRs are also younger and better (Chase>Hill) so I’m not too worried about it. Good thing is if the cap keeps going up (hopefully) these will be pretty good deals in a couple of years.

My only worry is them not spending in other areas of need like Guard/Safety/D line. I don’t think these WR deals will prevent them from adding other good players I just don’t know that the FO is creative enough with the contracts to do it.

Trey's going to be the sacrificial lamb. Chase and Tee will be back.