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"Inching closer" to getting the JaMarr Chase deal done
#61
Even though the team is still not better than last year and there is still a lot left to do, this would be spectacular. I want both of these guys to retire as Bengals.
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(6 hours ago)Bengalion Wrote: Trey's going to be the sacrificial lamb. Chase and Tee will be back.

I guess if you ignore his signing bonus and his 15,8 million dollar salary you are correct.  Smirk
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(6 hours ago)Bengalion Wrote: Trey's going to be the sacrificial lamb. Chase and Tee will be back.

What are you talking about? At worst for Trey, he'll be back and playing out his existing contract.
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(6 hours ago)Bengalion Wrote: Trey's going to be the sacrificial lamb. Chase and Tee will be back.

He is still under contract but FWIW, when discussing Tee and Ja'Marr on NFLN, Rapaport and Pelissaro also mentioned that Trey and the team were talking again
 
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(6 hours ago)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Even though the team is still not better than last year and there is still a lot left to do, this would be spectacular. I want both of these guys to retire as Bengals.

I agree on paper we are not better than last year, also not worse either. I agree work to be done in the trenches. We got our Reader replacement in m opinion with Slayton. I feel the combo of Murphy, Ossai, Sample (lost all of 2024) and 2nd year Johnson is better than Hubbard. 

I also think Bengals DB's need to figure out a way to stay healthy. The Turner and Hill losses were huge. Rankins was a dud before he was injured and. Cappa killed our offense as did LG.

If we can imrove the guard play, our offense could takes steps closer to best offense in the NFL in yards, T.O.P and points. I would take top 5 in all categories,
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(6 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: What are you talking about? At worst for Trey, he'll be back and playing out his existing contract.

I don't think he will. He wants more money, and if he doesn't get what he wants I think he will refuse to play. 
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(5 hours ago)Bengalion Wrote: I don't think he will. He wants more money, and if he doesn't get what he wants I think he will refuse to play. 

IDK, there's already been a report posted that the team is back in talks with Trey and his agent. So there is that.
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(5 hours ago)Bengalion Wrote: I don't think he will. He wants more money, and if he doesn't get what he wants I think he will refuse to play. 

Based on?

Trey has huffed and puffed about his contract before, but when push came to shove, he reported to TC and balled out.
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(5 hours ago)Whatever Wrote: Based on?

Trey has huffed and puffed about his contract before, but when push came to shove, he reported to TC and balled out.

Yeah, he’ll play. $16 million is $16 million.
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It will be interesting. No team is close to paying 2 wrs 70 million a year.
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(5 hours ago)Whatever Wrote: Based on?

Trey has huffed and puffed about his contract before, but when push came to shove, he reported to TC and balled out.

I think he has more leverage now. After leading the league in sacks last year, he will probably get the money he wants elsewhere. For the second year in a row Trey's unhappy with his contract, think about that. Yeah last year he reported to TC, but I'm not sure he's willing to be underpaid again this year. I think he will be traded at some moment. 
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(5 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It will be interesting. No team is close to paying 2 wrs 70 million a year.

Yeah, that is a high percentage of cap to have tied up in WR, but if they solidify the line it might pay off.
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(7 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Actually got curious when I saw you say this, so...

40.8% of the offensive yards/50.0% of the offensive TDs in 2024
32.3% of the offensive yards/30.8% of the offensive TDs in 2023

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(This isn't me making a point, this is just me purely sharing stats after I got curious and looked it up.)

Honestly it’s more than I thought lol. I was using a little hyperbole. But yeah if they give you 40% of offensive output, they’re worth 15-20% of cap. What % of TD? I bet it’s even more
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(4 hours ago)Ell Prez Wrote: Honestly it’s more than I thought lol. I was using a little hyperbole. But yeah if they give you 40% of offensive output, they’re worth 15-20% of cap. What % of TD? I bet it’s even more

That info is literally in the post that you quoted.
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(5 hours ago)THE PISTONS Wrote: It will be interesting. No team is close to paying 2 wrs 70 million a year.

(5 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, that is a high percentage of cap to have tied up in WR, but if they solidify the line it might pay off.

This is why I think they need to hit on guard in the draft.

If they can solidify guard with rookie deals for 4 years that would take care of (likely) the entirety of Tee’s contract.

It’s important to hit on the draft—not only to win but to make the salary cap work.

Really excited to lock up Chase and Trey!
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(5 hours ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Yeah, he’ll play. $16 million is $16 million.
This.  He is gonna be 30.  He is not sitting out.  Honestly I could see the Bengals letting him play out his year and tagging him next year. 
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#77
(6 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: What are you talking about? At worst for Trey, he'll be back and playing out his existing contract.


Sure feels that way.  It would be the right thing to do to give him a pay bump.  Either way, I'd bet heavily on him remaining a Bengal.
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(5 hours ago)SunsetBengal Wrote: Yeah, that is a high percentage of cap to have tied up in WR, but if they solidify the line it might pay off.

It's how the cards fell.  2 or their 4 best players are receivers.  You don't let your best players walk, especially when you have nobody else to extend.  We have a shitty enough time replacing talent.
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(5 hours ago)Bengalion Wrote: I think he has more leverage now. After leading the league in sacks last year, he will probably get the money he wants elsewhere. For the second year in a row Trey's unhappy with his contract, think about that. Yeah last year he reported to TC, but I'm not sure he's willing to be underpaid again this year. I think he will be traded at some moment. 

What part of the facts right now don't you understand, lol?

He will not sit out with 16 mil being thrown away and he's got 0 leverage as we have him under team control for potentially 3 more years (though I doubt he gets tagged twice).

Duke's not in the business of making other teams better, remember?
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Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.

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