(03-15-2025, 10:15 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: In an ideal scenario.

A guard, or preferably 2.
Calais Campbell.  A guy who can move inside/out.  Can bring a little juice to the pass rush game. Incredible leadership.
Von Miller/Z Smith, or someone in this range.  Another leader on defense.  Older, but can also contribute.

It would be great if the bengals had 4-5 guys, outside of Trey that could contribute 5+ sacks, keeping guys fresh.  It’s wild to think a team like the eagles, middle of the road sack total (41), had 5 more sacks than the bengals, but no one had more than 8.

FWIW - Campbell signed last year a 1 year $2,000,000 deal.  
I’m assuming a veteran pass rusher is somewhere in the $5,000,000-$8,00,000 range.  Hopefully less.  

Probably high here, but these moves would really open Up the draft.

I would be down with all of this Bengalbug, I just don't see the Bengals signing older players like that.

Wonder how cooked Chido is. The Titans just released him. Might not be bad to have a steady veteran around the young fellas.

(03-15-2025, 10:15 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: In an ideal scenario.

A guard, or preferably 2.
Calais Campbell.  A guy who can move inside/out.  Can bring a little juice to the pass rush game. Incredible leadership.
Von Miller/Z Smith, or someone in this range.  Another leader on defense.  Older, but can also contribute.

It would be great if the bengals had 4-5 guys, outside of Trey that could contribute 5+ sacks, keeping guys fresh.  It’s wild to think a team like the eagles, middle of the road sack total (41), had 5 more sacks than the bengals, but no one had more than 8.

FWIW - Campbell signed last year a 1 year $2,000,000 deal.  
I’m assuming a veteran pass rusher is somewhere in the $5,000,000-$8,00,000 range.  Hopefully less.  

Probably high here, but these moves would really open Up the draft.

I would love Campbell.He is a player I have alwasy respected. He coulld help BJ mold our young DT's.

(03-15-2025, 08:39 AM)lone bengal Wrote: I think Scherff would be a good fit cheaper than Jenkins and has been very solid. As the roster is currently constructed we’d probably need two rookies to have immediate impacts at guard and defensive line. We need to add a quality starter we can’t rely on rookies.  If there’s an injury at tackle Ford is are swing tackle. We only have 6 picks we need 2 guards, DE , DT , linebacker and safety.

I like Jenkins and wouldnt mind having him on the team but Im not sure you can rely on him either.  The guy gets injured a lot.  Given his background I dont have any problem with the Bengals not giving him a large contract with a bunch of guarantees.  I wouldnt pay him over 10 million per season.  If he is looking for much more than that, forget about it with his injury history

(03-15-2025, 07:32 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would love Campbell.He is a player I have alwasy respected. He coulld help BJ mold our young DT's.

Campbell would be a good addition to the defense just as Za'Darius Smith would be.  Im just not sure we would have room for either one of them on our roster considering all the guys we already have signed plus the likelihood we draft a couple more guys for the defensive line.

(03-15-2025, 10:38 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Campbell would be a good addition to the defense just as Za'Darius Smith would be.  Im just not sure we would have room for either one of them on our roster considering all the guys we already have signed plus the likelihood we draft a couple more guys for the defensive line.

Campbell would potentially be the 2nd best DL on the team, if Trey is here.

(03-15-2025, 07:32 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I would love Campbell.He is a player I have alwasy respected. He coulld help BJ mold our young DT's.

Me, too. However, assuming we only keep 5 DTs: Hill, Slaton, Jenkins, + Jackson make 4. I think #5 is a draft pick. 

DE us thinner. Trey + Ossai + Murphy is 3. Sample & Johnson are both signed. I'd say one of those guys is #5. #4 is probably a pick. 

That said, we've kept 11 DL before. And Campbell can certainly play inside out. Though he was more of a DT, run stuffer last year. 

Ossai had 5 last year, he should do better easily with more snaps. Hill should get 4+. 

It is a pretty good DT/DE draft.

(03-15-2025, 10:56 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Me, too. However, assuming we only keep 5 DTs: Hill, Slaton, Jenkins, + Jackson make 4. I think #5 is a draft pick. 

DE us thinner. Trey + Ossai + Murphy is 3. Sample & Johnson are both signed. I'd say one of those guys is #5. #4 is probably a pick. 

That said, we've kept 11 DL before. And Campbell can certainly play inside out. Though he was more of a DT, run stuffer last year. 

Ossai had 5 last year, he should do better easily with more snaps. Hill should get 4+. 

It is a pretty good DT/DE draft.

It’s funny when people try to justify not bringing a player in because of depth/etc. it was “we don’t need reciever because WR room is so deep”( last year. This year DL; for the bengals is weak. You make room for a guy like him

The entire reason you sign quality veterans is to not rely on the draft at all

Re-signing Hill ends any discussion in a second DT signing. This draft is deep and I already wanted to double dip on either tackle or end.

(03-16-2025, 10:38 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: It’s funny when people try to justify not bringing a player in because of depth/etc.  it was “we don’t need reciever because WR room is so deep”( last year.  This year DL; for the bengals is weak. You make room for a guy like him

The entire reason you sign quality veterans is to not rely on the draft at all

Look, I am just saying you already have 4 guys thar are gonna at least get rotational snaps at DT. Period. We signed Hill & Slaton to start. We are not gonna mothball Jenkins nor Jackson. That is a fact.

Campbell graded out much better vs the run last year. As did Hill. Slaton is a run stuffer. As is Jackson. And Jenkins' strength is his strength, not his pass rush.

What we need is interior pass rush. And while Campbell is still good, I think we will most likely go with a younger/cheaper early round pick. But Calais may be around until after the draft. 

They've made the Burks signing official. I read somewhere someone had wondered....

(03-17-2025, 02:07 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Look, I am just saying you already have 4 guys thar are gonna at least get rotational snaps at DT. Period. We signed Hill & Slaton to start. We are not gonna mothball Jenkins nor Jackson. That is a fact.

Campbell graded out much better vs the run last year. As did Hill. Slaton is a run stuffer. As is Jackson. And Jenkins' strength is his strength, not his pass rush.

What we need is interior pass rush. And while Campbell is still good, I think we will most likely go with a younger/cheaper early round pick. But Calais may be around until after the draft. 

If they sign a guard in FA it starts to whittle down the probable options at #1. The Ole Miss kid and the TTUN kid are waiving hello to the members of this MB.

(03-15-2025, 10:56 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Me, too. However, assuming we only keep 5 DTs: Hill, Slaton, Jenkins, + Jackson make 4. I think #5 is a draft pick. 

DE us thinner. Trey + Ossai + Murphy is 3. Sample & Johnson are both signed. I'd say one of those guys is #5. #4 is probably a pick. 

That said, we've kept 11 DL before. And Campbell can certainly play inside out. Though he was more of a DT, run stuffer last year. 

Ossai had 5 last year, he should do better easily with more snaps. Hill should get 4+. 

It is a pretty good DT/DE draft.

Yeah it seems like an edge pass rusher as opposed to a true DE is amongst the BPA picks from these simulators if that means anything.  If Golden has a plan to use one of these undersized rushers in his defense they could make an impact this year depending on development.  

They'd get good value at DT in the mid rounds but yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they went somewhere else as long as they were amongst the BPA per round.  Something like guard and safety and maybe even LB. 

This FA year been very lackluster.

Extending current guys is great, but keeping them just helps keep from getting worse.

About the only upgrade is Slaton, but that's only for run defense.

I don't see this team currently being better than a 11-win team.
That would get to the playoffs, but I don't have confidence in getting back to the AFCCG or Super Bowl, which should be the goal.

(03-17-2025, 02:57 PM)ochocincos Wrote: This FA year been very lackluster.

Extending current guys is great, but keeping them just helps keep from getting worse.

About the only upgrade is Slaton, but that's only for run defense.

I don't see this team currently being better than a 11-win team.
That would get to the playoffs, but I don't have confidence in getting back to the AFCCG or Super Bowl, which should be the goal.

Yes, this has been a very pensive free agency season for the Bengals, especially with the WR extensions getting all the attention. I'd still like to see the team add a few pieces before depending on the draft as the only source of new talent. For example, there are a couple of inexpensive moves that they could make to improve the quality of the OL and the secondary in adding Brandon Scherff and Stephon Gilmore. I get that their both old, but they both also can still play a lot of snaps if needed to, along as offer some wisdom and guidance to younger players.

This may be the busiest FA for the Bengals in history. It was exactly one week today at noon when the legal tampering period started.

Bengals signed
BJ Hill
Slayton
Perrine
Ossai
Sample
Marco Wilson
Gesicki
Burks

Contract for richest in history to Chase for a non QB
Top 5 contract to Tee

Only Bengals fans would dismiss re-signing their own players and adding 2 guys from outside in less than a week

The FO has been extremely busy and productive in my humble opinion. THey deserve credit. Where would we be if we lost Gesicki, Hill and others to FA? The whine in here about Bengals cheapness would be off the charts.

More work to be done, but I think a huge first week of FA and officially only 5 days as FA did not start officially until Wednesday at 4 p.m. last week,

Signing your own guys aren't ever sexy.... it's much easier for us fans looking at the 10 across the hall and wanting to take our shot.

By all accounts this was a weak free-agency class. We got the guys san Hendrickson at the moment that we needed to get.

It all comes down to can you hit your draft picks. Perhaps make a trade for a vet for once and try and get over the hump.

(03-17-2025, 05:45 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: This may be the busiest FA for the Bengals in history. It was exactly one week today at noon when the legal tampering period started.

Bengals signed
BJ Hill
Slayton
Perrine
Ossai
Sample
Marco Wilson
Gesicki
Burks

Contract for richest in history to Chase for a non QB
Top 5 contract to Tee

Only Bengals fans would dismiss re-signing their own players and adding 2 guys from outside in less than a week

The FO has been extremely busy and productive in my humble opinion. THey deserve credit. Where would we be if we lost Gesicki, Hill and others to FA? The whine in here about Bengals cheapness would be off the charts.

More work to be done, but I think a huge first week of FA and officially only 5 days as FA did not start officially until Wednesday at 4 p.m. last week,

Yeah, Tee was the top FA, BJ Hill was a top DT in this FA. Sometimes it just looks greener on the other side adding someone from 
some other team but it may not be. Would of sucked to of lost any of these guys and Slaton helps to stop the run, Perine helps to 
protect our franchise, Burks was great last season on the SB Champs, Ossai was our second best pass rusher, Cam Sample is solid
and Gesicki is a 6'6" pass catching mismatch for Joe Burrow.

(03-17-2025, 05:54 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, Tee was the top FA, BJ Hill was a top DT in this FA. Sometimes it just looks greener on the other side adding someone from 
some other team but it may not be. Would of sucked to of lost any of these guys and Slaton helps to stop the run, Perine helps to 
protect our franchise, Burks was great last season on the SB Champs, Ossai was our second best pass rusher, Cam Sample is solid
and Gesicki is a 6'6" pass catching mismatch for Joe Burrow.

The common theme some are missing, Trey love the organization and city. Hill loves the organization and the city. Ossai wants to go back to the Super Bowl.

It was not long ago our own players wanted out. That culture changed and now we showed those like Rankins and Cappa the door for underperforming.

No doubt, we have work to do in FA yet, but the real work is on teh coaches to improve the roster. We need them to take good NFL players and make 2 or 3 great.

The FO took the #1 FA in 2025 Tee off the market and then did what many of us said may be a mistake signed him long term. They paid him. Maybe time to give the FO props for a job well done.