(04-04-2025, 02:50 PM)jason Wrote: If they were all lined up for a pick-up game, I'm picking Ja'Marr first. Chad is still the greatest, but probably for not much longer.

Yep, short lived greatness for Chad and he knows it.

Chase drops too many balls for me..........Chad was Mr Hands w toe tap on the sidelinez all day or burn your ass over the top............Chad

Chase's peak is the highest, but Chad was better for longer.

AJ 3rd.

Interestig battle for 4th/5th amongst Isaac Curtis, Collingsworth, Pickens, TJ, Eddie Brown, Boyd, and Higgins.

The more recent guys have nore receptions and such with more passing these days. The older guys have a better AV and linger tenures.

Player: Seasons; Games; AV; Rec; Yds; TD; YPC; All-Pro/ProBowl
Johnson: 10; 151, 100; 751; 10,783; 66, 14.4, 2/6.
Chase:------ 4;  62, 51; 395; 5,425; 46; 13.7; 1/4
Green:------- 9; 127; 85; 649; 9,430; 65; 14.5; 0/6
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Curtis:-----------12; 166; 83; 416; 7,101; 53; 17.1; 0/4
Collingsworth: 8; 107; 73; 417; 6,698; 36; 16.1; 0/3
Pickens:-----------8; 120; 63; 530; 6,887; 63; 13.0; 0/2
Brown:-------------7; 102; 64; 363; 6,134; 41; 16.9; 0/1
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Houshmandzadeh: 8; 105; 54; 507; 5,782; 37; 11.4; 0/1
Boyd:----------------------8; 120; 53; 513; 6,000; 31; 11.7; 0/0
Scott:----------------------7; 109; 54; 386; 5,975; 36; 15.5; 0/0
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McGee:-------------------8; 121; 48; 282; 4,703; 25; 16.7; 0/0
Higgins:--------------------5; 70; 41; 330; 4,595; 34; 13.9; 0/0

(04-05-2025, 10:38 AM)CincyKid Wrote: Chase drops too many balls for me..........Chad was Mr Hands w toe tap on the sidelinez all day or burn your ass over the top............Chad

Eh, Chase had some problems with drops before his rookie season, but that hasn't been a problem much lately. Think he had a couple
drops late last season, but Chad would disappear in big games and wasn't clutch. Give me Ja'Marr everytime in the clutch over Chad.

Heck, Housh was more clutch than Chad if we are taking shots at Ja'Marr and his drops.

(03-29-2025, 11:21 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: The other day Chad and TJ were on a pod and Chad Johnson says Chase.

TJ disagrees and says Chad should be a HOF and is the best all time Bengal WR of all time, but Chase is on his way.

Chad said he never had a triple crown, TJ says he was a top 5 receiver 5/7 years.  

Chase already has the best 2 seasons in bengals history.

Thoughts?

Well if we base on 1st 4 yrars it is chase aj and chad, injuries did AJ in after 6th, if we base it on who played with an inferior WR group, AJ might adge Chase out right now

There can be only one......

(03-30-2025, 11:16 AM)sandwedge Wrote: You forgot the Eighties
Collinsworth
Brown

Your point still stands though, we have had some great WR's

I didn’t forget about them. I just don’t think an argument can be made for either of them to be our best ever over the any of the guys I have listed. But each person on my list can have an argument made in their favor that they were in fact the best to ever suit up for Cincinnati. I’m not saying CC and Brown weren’t good, just not the best for the topic.

(04-05-2025, 05:14 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: I didn’t forget about them.  I just don’t think an argument can be made for either of them to be our best ever over the any of the guys I have listed.  But each person on my list can have an argument made in their favor that they were in fact the best to ever suit up for Cincinnati.  I’m not saying CC and Brown weren’t good, just not the best for the topic.

Agreed, Collinsworth and Brown were good, but not Bengals All Time good.

(04-05-2025, 10:38 AM)CincyKid Wrote: Chase drops too many balls for me..........Chad was Mr Hands w toe tap on the sidelinez all day or burn your ass over the top............Chad

I already voted Chad, but I am going to disagree with your Chase drops comment. I was actually pretty vocal earlier in his career that he needed to clean up his drops when he was at 8.4% his first 2 years, and he has made good improvement on it.

He's at 4.4% over the last 2 years, which isn't elite or anything to crow about, but it's good. Last 2 years for a couple other current great WRs...
Tyreek Hill: 4.9%
Davante Adams: 4.4%
Ceedee Lamb: 3.9%
Amon-Ra St Brown: 3.9%

Granted lower is always better, and I would love to see Chase improve even more.

(04-05-2025, 05:14 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: I didn’t forget about them.  I just don’t think an argument can be made for either of them to be our best ever over the any of the guys I have listed.  But each person on my list can have an argument made in their favor that they were in fact the best to ever suit up for Cincinnati.  I’m not saying CC and Brown weren’t good, just not the best for the topic.

Sorry, you had a list of players and I noticed you hadn't anyone from the 80s. Pointing out we have had some great WRs throughout our time in the NFL.

(04-05-2025, 06:18 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I already voted Chad, but I am going to disagree with your Chase drops comment. I was actually pretty vocal earlier in his career that he needed to clean up his drops when he was at 8.4% his first 2 years, and he has made good improvement on it.

He's at 4.4% over the last 2 years, which isn't elite or anything to crow about, but it's good. Last 2 years for a couple other current great WRs...
Tyreek Hill: 4.9%
Davante Adams: 4.4%
Ceedee Lamb: 3.9%
Amon-Ra St Brown: 3.9%

Granted lower is always better, and I would love to see Chase improve even more.

Thanks for the percentages TLL. Thought Ja'Marr has gotten much better catching the ball the last couple of years.

Again, for me:

1) Chad
2) Chase
3) AJ
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4) Curris
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And then I think you can have genuine disagreements about CC, Pickens,,TH, Brown, & Boyd. I think Scott, McGee, and Tee (at this point) are reaches.

But as for #1, anything beyond Chad, AJ, Chase is a reach. Though I do appreciate the love for Isaac, who is a clear #4 for me.

5th/6th would depend on if you just want a ranking or if you want to actually pick 6 to out on a team.

If it is the latter, I probably take Pickens to be AJ's backup as the big receiver.

So I have:
All around: Chad, Chase
Big body: AJ, Pickens
Deep speed: Curtis, Chase
Slot: Chase, ??? .

The slot receiver as a starter is a recent thing. Not that the others couldn't do it, especially CC or TJ, but Boyd has to be in consideration.

Brown & Scott are burners. I'd go Boyd/TJ/CC for the last spot on the team as the slot guy.

If you are just ranking, it does not matter.

(04-05-2025, 08:05 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Sorry, you had a list of players and I noticed you hadn't anyone from the 80s. Pointing out we have had some great WRs throughout our time in the NFL.

For sure, it’s rare that the Bengals have not had a solid receiving corps

(04-06-2025, 10:46 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Again, for me:

1) Chad
2) Chase
3) AJ
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4) Curris
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And then I think you can have genuine disagreements about CC, Pickens,,TH, Brown, & Boyd. I think Scott, McGee, and Tee (at this point) are reaches.

But as for #1, anything beyond Chad, AJ, Chase is a reach. Though I do appreciate the love for Isaac, who is a clear #4 for me.

5th/6th would depend on if you just want a ranking or if you want to actually pick 6 to out on a team.

If it is the latter, I probably take Pickens to be AJ's backup as the big receiver.

So I have:
All around: Chad, Chase
Big body: AJ, Pickens
Deep speed: Curtis, Chase
Slot: Chase, ??? .

The slot receiver as a starter is a recent thing. Not that the others couldn't do it, especially CC or TJ, but Boyd has to be in consideration.

Brown & Scott are burners. I'd go Boyd/TJ/CC for the last spot on the team as the slot guy.

If you are just ranking, it does not matter.

I would put Boyd or TJ as your other for a slot receiver. 

(04-06-2025, 10:46 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Again, for me:

1) Chad
2) Chase
3) AJ
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4) Curris
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And then I think you can have genuine disagreements about CC, Pickens,,TH, Brown, & Boyd. I think Scott, McGee, and Tee (at this point) are reaches.

But as for #1, anything beyond Chad, AJ, Chase is a reach. Though I do appreciate the love for Isaac, who is a clear #4 for me.

5th/6th would depend on if you just want a ranking or if you want to actually pick 6 to out on a team.

If it is the latter, I probably take Pickens to be AJ's backup as the big receiver.

So I have:
All around: Chad, Chase
Big body: AJ, Pickens
Deep speed: Curtis, Chase
Slot: Chase, ??? .

The slot receiver as a starter is a recent thing. Not that the others couldn't do it, especially CC or TJ, but Boyd has to be in consideration.

Brown & Scott are burners. I'd go Boyd/TJ/CC for the last spot on the team as the slot guy.

If you are just ranking, it does not matter.

Personally, I think only Chase would be as productive if they had to play under the same rules as Curtis.

(04-05-2025, 04:13 PM)Sled21 Wrote: There can be only one......

loved Curtis growing up, so hard to compare eras but when they had to create a rule since teams were roll blocking you, tells you how good he was

(04-06-2025, 05:39 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: loved Curtis growing up, so hard to compare eras but when they had to create a rule since teams were roll blocking you, tells you how good he was

Right. And I'm not sure AJ (Not a knock, I loved him as a player) or Chad could play in the era Curtis did without sustaining multiple injuries. There were very little protections for receivers back then and the defense could just blow them up. These guys today are so protected they barely wear pads.

(04-08-2025, 08:32 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Right. And I'm not sure AJ (Not a knock, I loved him as a player) or Chad could play in the era Curtis did without sustaining multiple injuries. There were very little protections for receivers back then and the defense could just blow them up. These guys today are so protected they barely wear pads.

Uh…what? Chad was tough as nails. He went up against Ray Lewis and all the dirty ass Steelers for years. He was durable as hell.

(04-08-2025, 11:30 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Uh…what? Chad was tough as nails. He went up against Ray Lewis and all the dirty ass Steelers for years. He was durable as hell.

Yeah, that was confusing. Are we pretending that Chad didn't play in the Jacked-Up era?





Just one week's highlights. Dudes just launching themselves off the ground and into helmets and yet no flagged hits or injury hits were included.

(04-08-2025, 11:41 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Yeah, that was confusing. Are we pretending that Chad didn't play in the Jacked-Up era?





Just one week's highlights. Dudes just launching themselves off the ground and into helmets and yet no flagged hits or injury hits were included.

Right lets pretend

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7yoLPt1l2w