(01-17-2016, 10:06 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: I promise you the first Thursday Night game of the 2016 regular season will be Pittsburgh at Cincinnati.  The NFL and the networks know this would be a gold mine for ratings whether Vontaze Burfict plays or not.  There is no way these two teams are ever going to get along so let's embrace it.  If Vontaze is suspended, Rey Maualuga can crack skulls with the best of them and so can George Iloka.  It's about time the biggest thugs on the block, the Steelers, are afraid of the Bengals and Ben Roethlisblunder will think twice about throwing crossing routes against the Bengals because he knows his receiver is going to get lit up.  

Iloka's gone in FA this year. No way someone doesn't overpay him with how bad the safety class is this year. Read a couple things that said there's no first round safeties this year. The closest to it would be a safety who had 0 INT and 0 FF in 2015. Everyone else is in the late 2nd-early 3rd range.

Don't think the Bengals are going to be willing to match the ~$9m price tag Iloka gets. Re-sign Nelson, and just put Williams in Iloka's spot.

(01-17-2016, 10:26 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Iloka's gone in FA this year. No way someone doesn't overpay him with how bad the safety class is this year. Read a couple things that said there's no first round safeties this year. The closest to it would be a safety who had 0 INT and 0 FF in 2015. Everyone else is in the late 2nd-early 3rd range.

Don't think the Bengals are going to be willing to match the ~$9m price tag Iloka gets. Re-sign Nelson, and just put Williams in Iloka's spot.

Franchise tag him and give him one more year to earn a long term pay day.

(01-17-2016, 10:49 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Franchise tag him and give him one more year to earn a long term pay day.

Safety tag was $9.6 in 2015 after being $8.4m in 2014. Can't see the Bengals paying roughly $10.8m or so straight to the cap space for one year of Iloka while Williams sits on the bench. Iloka's pretty good, but he's not Earl Thomas good. It'd also make Iloka your third biggest cap hit in 2016.

(01-17-2016, 10:55 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Safety tag was $9.6 in 2015 after being $8.4m in 2014. Can't see the Bengals paying roughly $10.8m or so straight to the cap space for one year of Iloka while Williams sits on the bench. Iloka's pretty good, but he's not Earl Thomas good. It'd also make Iloka your third biggest cap hit in 2016.

Well, I never in a million year thought Rey Maualuga would get 7 mil a year, but they sure did.

They've never been afraid to shell out for their own, even when they get expensive.  On top of that, Bengal money is real money.  A player gets a deal here and he's very likely to finish it in it's entirety.  Got to be considered when a player goes on the market.  A big contract elsewhere means little when you're only going to get the first few years of it. 

(01-17-2016, 11:27 PM)samhain Wrote: Well, I never in a million year thought Rey Maualuga would get 7 mil a year, but they sure did.

They've never been afraid to shell out for their own, even when they get expensive.  On top of that, Bengal money is real money.  A player gets a deal here and he's very likely to finish it in it's entirety.  Got to be considered when a player goes on the market.  A big contract elsewhere means little when you're only going to get the first few years of it. 

He didn't get $7m a year, he just got $7m this year. $4m next year, $3.7m the year after.

Also, bringing up overpaying Rey Maualuga might be helpful to argue for the Bengals possibly overpaying for Iloka, but it doesn't make me feel better about the prospect of overpaying Iloka. Lol

(01-17-2016, 11:46 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: He didn't get $7m a year, he just got $7m this year. $4m next year, $3.7m the year after.

Also, bringing up overpaying Rey Maualuga might be helpful to argue for the Bengals possibly overpaying for Iloka, but it doesn't make me feel better about the prospect of overpaying Iloka. Lol

Still a lot more than anyone expected him to get.  The second point holds firm.  It takes a hell of a lot for this team to get rid of a homegrown player under contract.  As in major injury or just complete and total ineffectiveness.  Some would argue the second isn't really a deal breaker, either.  If the money is comparable to other offers, a player would be a fool not to stay in Cincinnati.

If they want him, they'll get him.

(01-15-2016, 10:30 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Technically, the Porter thing would've negated the Burfict penalty had the refs flagged it immediately.

True but it would have on Jones.

That would have made it a 50 yard FG in the cold rain.

 Doable but not a given.