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(03-04-2016, 10:53 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:
This is literally me when I saw "Bengals re-sign..." and the gif continues onto when I saw the name.
I'm right there with you. why the hell they keep bringing him back. let him move on to foot locker
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(03-04-2016, 06:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The Bengals had the 4th best LOS starting position in the NFL last season. Whatever/however we are doing it is not hurting the team. Tate averages about 5 yards less per return than the elite NFL returners and is very sure handed with the ball. I get he doesn't run back a lot of TDs, but he doesn't hurt the team.
Because of the defense and Adam Jones (an All Pro returner). Not because of Tate.
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(03-04-2016, 02:37 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: Not sure how you got that out of Tate being re-signed.
me either,but wouldn't it suck ass if that does happen? mikey boy just for you and Tate
(03-04-2016, 02:50 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: He's one of the few players in the league that will kick back half of his paycheck to mike brown just for keeping him on the team. Roland did the same thing.
he should he's robbed the organization with every check he has cashed
(03-04-2016, 03:42 PM)Nately120 Wrote: So is Tate like the Mike Nugent of the return game?
except nugent actually helps the team sometimes
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(03-04-2016, 04:54 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: I'd rather have a 50 year old Chris Crocker than another year with Brandon Tate. At least Chris is intelligent and valuable from that aspect, Tate is an idiot. We'd be better off with Crocker out there returning kickoffs on crutches than Tate. At least he'd be smart enough to take a knee. He'd be almost as valuable in the receiving game too. Although Tate did have at least one nice grab I can remember last year so gotta give him props on that one
kinda like the sun shines on a dogs nuts every now and again
(03-04-2016, 05:39 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Last season was his 5th season for us. In all of that time Tate has given us 33 catches, 3 TDs, 21 rushing yards, and 1 punt return TD.
I know Hobson beats it into us that he's the all-time PR leader for us, because I don't think anyone has ever gotten more than 2-3 season in that role, but this is just comical. Oh yeah, he returned a punt for a TD against us in 2010. Gotta mention that.
We most likely could've re-signed Tate after the "dust settled" from the beginning of free agency. Oh well, Groundhog Day.
stats like that good thing we grabbed him up
(03-04-2016, 06:14 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Championship
exactly my same thought
(03-04-2016, 10:06 PM)grampahol Wrote: Some of you just don't get the reliability Tate brings to the table in the return game. It ain't sexy or flashy,but he seldom puts the ball on the ground. I just don't see why that seems so unimportant to so many. If the return guy fumbles a lot chances are it's going to happen on the wrong side of the field. Tate seldom fumbles the ball. That is the bottom line.
good thing he seldom gets out past 15 yard line. just take a knee deep in the end zone, at least he would give the offense about 10 more yards
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you guys just need to get over yourselves and your hate of tate.
Its a good freaking signing so give it up its every year someone is crying and belly aching oh my god we resigned tate.
WithMJ and sanu hitting the market tate knows the system and is probly on a deal that makes him easy to cut if someone better is acquired.
Its a smart signing to fill roster needs before the draft. PR/KR and WR and ST gunner if need be...
if it was a 5 year deal id be upset but i bet my login here its not
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and several times a game we are belly aching oh my gosh just take a knee, but it does take a special talent to bring it out 8-9 yards in and get to the 12 yard line. hey if you're happy I'm happy
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(03-04-2016, 10:06 PM)grampahol Wrote: Some of you just don't get the reliability Tate brings to the table in the return game. It ain't sexy or flashy,but he seldom puts the ball on the ground. I just don't see why that seems so unimportant to so many. If the return guy fumbles a lot chances are it's going to happen on the wrong side of the field. Tate seldom fumbles the ball. That is the bottom line.
12 fumbles in 5 years.. that's on 298 returns, 33 catches, and 4 carries (27.91 per fumble)
For a reference point? Jermaine Gresham had 11 fumbles in 5 years on 280 catches (25.45 per fumble), and most of those came on second/third efforts that you don't get from Tate.
Tate fumbles roughly the same rate as Jermaine Gresham with significantly less contact than Gresham. I think you really meant to use a different word than "seldom".
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(03-04-2016, 06:00 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: you guys just need to get over yourselves and your hate of tate.
Its a good freaking signing so give it up its every year someone is crying and belly aching oh my god we resigned tate.
WithMJ and sanu hitting the market tate knows the system and is probly on a deal that makes him easy to cut if someone better is acquired.
Its a smart signing to fill roster needs before the draft. PR/KR and WR and ST gunner if need be...
if it was a 5 year deal id be upset but i bet my login here its not,.
"Good freaking signing" and Brandon Tate will never EVER go together in a logical sense.
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I bet Billicheck and the Patriots are smacking their heads over letting this guy go years back. Damn, what a mistake.
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(03-05-2016, 02:34 AM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: I bet Billicheck and the Patriots are smacking their heads over letting this guy go years back. Damn, what a mistake.
and now our organization has the foresight to keep the man
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Bad timing it was just bad timing. Sign him last for a buck fitty? sure
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(03-04-2016, 02:54 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: We've been saying this for 4 years. And he's still here.
Someone needs to step up then.
Love him or Hate him... Tate keeps fighting guys off.
Sooner or later one of the young guys has to do something in the preseason to knock the gate keeper out.
Cant fault the team for keeping an unspectacular but reliable guy for peanuts when half your roster WRs were question marks.
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(03-05-2016, 04:29 AM)Junglejuice Wrote: Someone needs to step up then.
Love him or Hate him... Tate keeps fighting guys off.
Sooner or later one of the young guys has to do something in the preseason to knock the gate keeper out.
Cant fault the team for keeping an unspectacular but reliable guy for peanuts when half your roster WRs were question marks.
makes since, but there are bigger FA concerns.pretty sure if we had too have him and he was picked up be easy to find someone maybe a good chance anyway being better,just don't see many lining up for him like they will for our top FA. jones,Nelson iloka shouldn't they be top priority?
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(03-05-2016, 04:29 AM)Junglejuice Wrote: Someone needs to step up then.
Love him or Hate him... Tate keeps fighting guys off.
Sooner or later one of the young guys has to do something in the preseason to knock the gate keeper out.
Cant fault the team for keeping an unspectacular but reliable guy for peanuts when half your roster WRs were question marks.
You have five years to pick from.
Name me one player who was given a chance to take the KR role from Tate with any seriousness.
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(03-05-2016, 12:46 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: You have five years to pick from.
Name me one player who was given a chance to take the KR role from Tate with any seriousness.
Trust me I'm not a Tate fan but at the end of the day not one of us is around everyday to see what happens behind the scenes or in camp.
When 3 of your starting WRs are without contract it makes sense.
I suggest writing Marvin Lewis a letter wanting answers.
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(03-05-2016, 01:40 PM)Junglejuice Wrote: Trust me I'm not a Tate fan but at the end of the day not one of us is around everyday to see what happens behind the scenes or in camp.
When 3 of your starting WRs are without contract it makes sense.
I suggest writing Marvin Lewis a letter wanting answers.
so you can't actually name anyone brought in to seriously compete with Tate. Okay.
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There are guys that have bounced around the league that could have been signed in an attempt to unseat Tate.
Tryndon Holliday comes to mind. What happened to that guy? He was a stud returning for Denver a few years back, then fell of the face of the earth.
Granted, good returners have a small window of greatness (usually) so I'm sure Holliday is unaffective these days.
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(03-05-2016, 03:20 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: so you can't actually name anyone brought in to seriously compete with Tate. Okay.
Well considering their best return man is also their best corner that hamstrings things a bit.
At the same time they always seem to be trying different guys during camp but it never pans out.
I could just assume that maybe they weren't good enough to displace our perennial #4 WR.
The Bengals seem to value their 2nd guy off the bench/Fair catch specialist.
Like I said... I'm not a coach. They are sticking to their plan.
Let's just hope someone steps up and performs this year to make it a non-factor.
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(03-05-2016, 03:20 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: so you can't actually name anyone brought in to seriously compete with Tate. Okay.
Onterio McCalebb
Dane Sanzenbacher
Mario Alford
All got extended looks over the last 3 preseasons and that is just in the PS games; we have no idea about practices.
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(03-05-2016, 12:41 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 12 fumbles in 5 years.. that's on 298 returns, 33 catches, and 4 carries (27.91 per fumble)
For a reference point? Jermaine Gresham had 11 fumbles in 5 years on 280 catches (25.45 per fumble), and most of those came on second/third efforts that you don't get from Tate.
Tate fumbles roughly the same rate as Jermaine Gresham with significantly less contact than Gresham. I think you really meant to use a different word than "seldom".
That's interesting that you compare a tight ends job to that of a kick returner. How many kicks did Gresham return? That's a bit like saying Tate fumbles as often as your grandma.. Compare kick returners, not tight ends to kick returners..
I'm open to the comparison of kick returners. Find the stats on them, but not tight ends vs kick returners..
Of course orange trees would all die if grown in Michigan, but we're not really comparing oranges and apples..
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(03-05-2016, 04:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Onterio McCalebb
Dane Sanzenbacher
Mario Alford
All got extended looks over the last 3 preseasons and that is just in the PS games; we have no idea about practices.
I should rephrase the question to be more clear, someone brought into SERIOUSLY compete with Tate...oh wait look at that, I did manage to get that right the first time.
Yeah, if a UDFA twig, Not Jordan Shipley and Mario Alford are your points....well.....
None of those 3 got serious looks. Especially Alford. Tate took damn near every PS return
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