(05-28-2016, 11:49 AM)Sled21 Wrote: It's simple, I want them to win the Championship. I'm not going to be happy if they win one playoff game and lose in the 2nd round. Anything less than a Super Bowl victory is disappointing.

Right. I get that. But if not winning a championship makes playoff wins moot, wouldn't it also make a winning regular season moot?

(05-28-2016, 12:07 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Right. I get that. But if not winning a championship makes playoff wins moot, wouldn't it also make a winning regular season moot?

Yup, if you don't win the Super Bowl you may as well go 0-16.  Nah, I kid.  You'd think Bengals fans of all people would realize a season that isn't over by week 3 is better than one that is.

(05-28-2016, 11:49 AM)Sled21 Wrote: It's simple, I want them to win the Championship. I'm not going to be happy if they win one playoff game and lose in the 2nd round. Anything less than a Super Bowl victory is disappointing.

Not only that but Shakes logic is contradictory. You have to win enough games DURING the season to MAKE the playoffs. Only 12 teams a year get that chance. You can't go one and done or win a championship UNLESS you MAKE the playoffs.

My opinion is until they can start breaking .500 with big stage season games, a championship is pretty much out of reach.

(05-28-2016, 01:34 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: Not only that but Shakes logic is contradictory. You have to win enough games DURING the season to MAKE the playoffs. Only 12 teams a year get that chance. You can't go one and done or win a championship UNLESS you MAKE the playoffs.

My opinion is until they can start breaking .500 with big stage season games, a championship is pretty much out of reach.

I do have to say that the Bengals haven't been good enough in "big games" to give impartial observers a reason to believe they can rattle off the 3 big-game streak it takes to hoist the Lombardi.  I honestly figured the Bengals were going to get the Jets at home in the playoffs, Fitzmagic would meltdown and throw 4 picks and the Bengals would win their first playoff game in 25 years by a sort of default.  

Twas not the case.

You guys just don't pray enough to Roger Goodell.. Repeat after me..
Holy Commissioner please let Marvin win the Super bowl.. ~Amen

(05-28-2016, 03:20 PM)grampahol Wrote: You guys just don't pray enough to Roger Goodell.. Repeat after me..
Holy Commissioner please let Marvin win the Super bowl.. ~Amen

Godell has prevented the Bengals from winning it all since he was 9 years old?  Impressive.

(05-28-2016, 07:04 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Godell has prevented the Bengals from winning it all since he was 9 years old?  Impressive.

Yes.  Evil has no age limit.

(05-28-2016, 12:53 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Yup, if you don't win the Super Bowl you may as well go 0-16.  Nah, I kid.  You'd think Bengals fans of all people would realize a season that isn't over by week 3 is better than one that is.

I guess as long as we don't win the Super Bowl, it's okay to go 0-7 in the playoffs. 

(05-26-2016, 08:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: Everything aside, the man deserves to get a playoff win with his coaching career. Hopefully the guys get him one and send him off right. It'll be a weird ending to a great era for this generation if he somehow never achieves the big win.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/05/25/marvin-lewis-cincinnati-bengals-playoff-history-nfl-coaches

He wants a ring more than a playoff win hopefully lol.

I really hope Marvin gets to go out on top with a super bowl win,but even if he never does he'll still have my respect as the coach who turned the team around. He'll always deserve some of his criticism and won't deserve most of it All in all I'll always be glad he's been with the team.

To put the discussion about this relentless back and forth about Lewis being fired to bed for good, standing on the fact that he will leave when he retires or Brown drops dead, is that fact that he wasn't fired after the 4-12 2010 season!! Think about it!!

(05-30-2016, 06:16 PM)bengalguy71 Wrote: To put the discussion about this relentless back and forth about Lewis being fired to bed for good, standing on the fact that he will leave when he retires or Brown drops dead, is that fact that he wasn't fired after the 4-12 2010 season!!  Think about it!!

Thank god he was not.. since then we have made the playoffs 5 times.. thank you Marvin

(05-30-2016, 12:40 PM)grampahol Wrote: I really hope Marvin gets to go out on top with a super bowl win,but even if he never does he'll still have my respect as the coach who turned the team around. He'll always deserve some of his criticism and won't deserve most of it  All in all I'll always be glad he's been with the team.

I agree, great post.

(05-27-2016, 10:50 AM)GodFather Wrote: Which is why i have zero faith he will ever win a single playoff game never mind going to the SB. Some people can only do so much in their careers, his stops at the playoffs. Its a whole new level from the regular season and he has the stats to prove he can't prepare/execute it for the playoffs. 

As much as you hope this year is going to be different....it won't.

You know, i get you but players can carry coaches at times.

That is what i am hoping for, i cannot be that negative, it is just not in me and
even if i am a fool i would rather be one than someone that is right about our
down fall. Odds eventually win out and we are due and have the best team in
the league IMHO.

I have my doubts because he's going to have to go from winless in the playoffs to winning the Super Bowl, to satisfy me.

This team is talented enough and experienced enough to win it ALL. Not beat a wild card team in a playoff game only.

Suffice it to say that if we do happen to win a super bowl with Lewis there will be more than a few people saying, "It's about time and he only won one." Which by the way will never be enough.

(05-26-2016, 08:29 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 1. No "we" can't, because we're not NFL players.  

2. Dude's hit his ceiling. He was good for rebuilding a team and getting them to win games, but he's never been good when the pressure is on and he can't prepare his teams for it. Prime time/playoff games have always been something his teams have rarely won, regardless of the players involved or the level of competition in the game. He's had at least like 3-4 distinctly different teams now as a Bengals HC and they all look the same in those moments.

Common thread between them? Him.


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Side note: Yeah, Sunset is right. With the talent the team has had last year and this year, a single playoff win is a failure. That was the goal back when Dalton was a rookie/2nd year player and this team was all young and such. The window will probably never be open more than he's had lately, so yeah, SB appearance is pretty much the only acceptable goal right now.

I the 7 playoff games lewis has been here.. He has yet to play a down...  Players must preform the way they do all season come playoff time too...      Last 2 years have sucked...  2014 we had Dalton but nothing else.. .2015 we had everything but Dalton.

will 2016 be the year they come together.

(05-30-2016, 09:30 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You know, i get you but players can carry coaches at times.

That is what i am hoping for, i cannot be that negative, it is just not in me and
even if i am a fool i would rather be one than someone that is right about our
down fall. Odds eventually win out and we are due and have the best team in
the league IMHO.

If odds eventually win out wouldn't the Browns be a powerhouse team by now?

Its ok you keep a positive approach, I give ya credit for it. I on the other hand have the approach that if I touch a hot stove seven time and it burns me, chances are Im going to get burnt again if I touch it.

If odds were bound to win out, then 34 of the 50 Super Bowls wouldn't belong to only 8 franchises.

In fact, 9 franchises have been in the NFL since the Super Bowl started and have never won a title.