I really don't understand how mike still has a job with us. It has been proven time and time again that you can't count on him. Case in point last night. Now before anyone says " but it's preseason, it doesn't really matter", exactly. Nugent comes in to the first preseason game, absolutely no pressure. and Of course he blows it, and we lose the (albeit preseason) game by a point.

What has to happen for marvin and company to finally move on.

It is probably his last year here. He is a FA next year.

(08-13-2016, 01:26 PM)Goalpost Wrote: It is probably his last year here.  He is a FA next year.

It should have been his last year, last year.

We will Lose at least one game, where it comes down to nugent. 

even if he is a FA next year, what if the one game he costs us, is for a playoff spot, or home field advantage in the postseason? what if it is more than one game he blows for us? 

I said during the off season that we need to move on from Nugent. He was a good kicker at Ohio State, but about average in the NFL. A field goal last night would have won the game. To me, the kicker is very important to the final outcomes of games.

I had to laugh when the announcers were talking about how he was hitting 50-yarders in warm-ups, and then he promptly misses one under 50 yards.

(08-13-2016, 01:35 PM)guyofthetiger Wrote: I said during the off season that we need to move on from Nugent. He was a good kicker at Ohio State, but about average in the NFL. A field goal last night would have won the game. To me, the kicker is very important to the final outcomes of games.

I was serisouly on board using a 6th or 7th round pick on a kicker. Just beyond over nugent 

(08-13-2016, 01:40 PM)Big Boss Wrote: I had to laugh when the announcers were talking about how he was hitting 50-yarders in warm-ups, and then he promptly misses one under 50 yards.

I didn't even realize that he's only had one good season in Cincy, and even 87% isn't amazing. Everything else is in around 80. I doubt they move on from him, but I'd keep an eye on the Saints kicking situation. Barth has had a solid career and Forbath minus last year has put up great numbers. You'd hate to have to mess with chemistry, but if Nuge has a bad preseason you'd have to consider one of those pros over Hocker...the guy the Saints gave up on last year.

Besides the Panthers game, I really can't seem to think of a game where Nugent lost us a game or missed a clutch field goal.

I mean, Seahawks game he did great in. Yet no one gives him credit for making a field goal with literally no time on the clock and then kicking another to win the game.

You're not gonna get better than Nugent with the NFL market. You're really not.

Plus. It's preseason. Chill out.

(08-13-2016, 02:49 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Besides the Panthers game, I really can't seem to think of a game where Nugent lost us a game or missed a clutch field goal.

I mean, Seahawks game he did great in. Yet no one gives him credit for making a field goal with literally no time on the clock and then kicking another to win the game.

You're not gonna get better than Nugent with the NFL market. You're really not.

Plus. It's preseason. Chill out.

They let Josh Brown go, who is now a top-5 kicker & way better than Nuge, and was better than him when we had him. The dont draft any kickers & dont sign any worthy free agents to challenge him. Nuge doesnt suck, but he isnt even above average. Point is, they dont even try to upgrade that spot when they should be. 

(08-13-2016, 03:03 PM)Millhouse Wrote: They let Josh Brown go, who is now a top-5 kicker & way better than Nuge, and was better than him when we had him. The dont draft any kickers & dont sign any worthy free agents to challenge him. Nuge doesnt suck, but he isnt even above average. Point is, they dont even try to upgrade that spot when they should be. 

Josh Brown was a mistake to let go. No doubt about that.

But there's little to no market right now. There's Graham and Scobee. Both have DEFINITELY lost more games than they've won. We all remember Graham. And Scobee was just terrible last year.

(08-13-2016, 02:49 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Besides the Panthers game, I really can't seem to think of a game where Nugent lost us a game or missed a clutch field goal.

I mean, Seahawks game he did great in. Yet no one gives him credit for making a field goal with literally no time on the clock and then kicking another to win the game.

You're not gonna get better than Nugent with the NFL market. You're really not.

Plus. It's preseason. Chill out.

Yeah, i keep hearing all of this Nuge hate but this is what i keep remembering. I don't remember the guy costing us
games like Shayne Graham or anything. Sure, Josh Brown should of beat him out here and that is on the coaches but
Nuge is better than some guy we would have no faith at all in. Little late for this.

(08-13-2016, 03:03 PM)Millhouse Wrote: They let Josh Brown go, who is now a top-5 kicker & way better than Nuge, and was better than him when we had him. The dont draft any kickers & dont sign any worthy free agents to challenge him. Nuge doesnt suck, but he isnt even above average. Point is, they dont even try to upgrade that spot when they should be. 

That will piss me off to no end until I die. I was LIVID the day the organization let josh brown go. The guy beat the steelers in Pittsburgh and clinched us a playoff spot only weeks before Mike Brown's bengals let him go in favor of a mediocre Buckeye     

(08-13-2016, 02:49 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Besides the Panthers game, I really can't seem to think of a game where Nugent lost us a game or missed a clutch field goal.

I mean, Seahawks game he did great in. Yet no one gives him credit for making a field goal with literally no time on the clock and then kicking another to win the game.

You're not gonna get better than Nugent with the NFL market. You're really not.

Plus. It's preseason. Chill out.

Yeah, um... Watch that kick again. He doinked it in by the grace of the football gods. Easily coulda shoulda woulda been a miss. Not exactly clutch when you get very lucky

Who doesn't hold their breath every time he lines up?

(08-13-2016, 03:52 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Yeah, um... Watch that kick again. He doinked it in by the grace of the football gods. Easily coulda shoulda woulda been a miss. Not exactly clutch when you get very lucky

I get why some don't like Nuge cause some of his makes even make me cringe.

I like a kicker who is straight down the middle everytime and if he misses one or two long ones or some in the wind so be it.

But when you have an easy kick you shouldn't be moving the ball right towards the left upright everytime.

But i still would keep Nuge over Graham or Scobee.

I like Nuge as a person a lot.

(08-13-2016, 02:49 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Besides the Panthers game, I really can't seem to think of a game where Nugent lost us a game or missed a clutch field goal.

You're not gonna get better than Nugent with the NFL market. You're really not.

-Last year against the Broncos, Nugent missed a 45 yarder in a game that they ended up losing by 3. I believe a win there would have given the Bengals a 1st round bye. If he made it, it'd be OT, not a win, but still...

-The Carolina game you mentioned in 2014.

-In 2013, the Bengals lost in OT against the Ravens. Nugent missed a 42 yarder in the 2nd quarter of that game, which would have presumably made the OT a nonfactor. If they won that game, the Bengals would have had a first round bye since they would tie NE's 12-4 record, and beat NE that year.


....so yeah, good for about a loss a year for the last three years, and probably cost the Bengals a first round bye twice.  The last three years, he has ranked 23rd, 27th, and 23rd in FG %.

(08-13-2016, 02:49 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Besides the Panthers game, I really can't seem to think of a game where Nugent lost us a game or missed a clutch field goal.

I mean, Seahawks game he did great in. Yet no one gives him credit for making a field goal with literally no time on the clock and then kicking another to win the game.

You're not gonna get better than Nugent with the NFL market. You're really not.

Plus. It's preseason. Chill out.

Denver last year.....

(08-13-2016, 02:24 PM)phil413 Wrote: I didn't even realize that he's only had one good season in Cincy, and even 87% isn't amazing.  Everything else is in around 80.  I doubt they move on from him, but I'd keep an eye on the Saints kicking situation.  Barth has had a solid career and Forbath minus last year has put up great numbers.  You'd hate to have to mess with chemistry, but if Nuge has a bad preseason you'd have to consider one of those pros over Hocker...the guy the Saints gave up on last year.

Agree ^^^^^^^