This team had like 5 turnovers and still gave up 34 points. Just pathetic.

There is absolutely no way anyone can defend this defense by touting the interceptions. They werent the result of any great play by the defense, they were all a gift by winston. He channeled Neill O donnell from SB 30 by throwing directly to the opposition. To have 4 turnovers and still allow 34 points at home is inexcusable.

Now that being said, this doesnt mean that the 2nd half Offense is free from blame

(10-28-2018, 06:24 PM)Browns Town Bengal Wrote: There is absolutely no way anyone can defend this defense by touting the interceptions.  They werent the result of any great play by the defense, they were all a gift by winston.  He channeled Neill O donnell from SB 30 by throwing directly to the opposition.  To have 4 turnovers and still allow 34 points at home is inexcusable.  

Now that being said, this doesnt mean that the 2nd half Offense is free from blame

Agree with this. Half of those interceptions would have been caught by wide open receivers for decent gains if Winston could have simply thrown them the ball accurately. 

There is nothing embarrassing about a win in the NFL.

(10-28-2018, 06:08 PM)bengals73 Wrote: Marvin is the worst third quarter coach, probably in history. that is nothing new

Giving up over 500 yards in a game, come on - the defense is f***** awful 

(10-28-2018, 06:08 PM)mon4078 Wrote: This offense has more holes than swiss cheese. There is no excuses for giving up the amount of points they have al year

Let's look at the facts for a second
1.) Our Nickle Defense is missing 4 key players (one is out for the year unfortunately in Lawson) Vigil, Vontaz, and Dennard are all important to this unit.
2.) In the 5 games we won the Defense has forced 12 turnovers and had 18 sacks. You can say it's played bad but the truth is we would not have the 5 wins without them . There making explosive plays for sure.
3.) The three game prior to this game the Bengals only scored 13, 20, and 13. That's pathetic and today the offense only scored once in the second half and had 4 straight three and outs against a terrible Defense. In fact last week we could not move the Ball against the worst defense in the NFL. The offense needs to be able to get out of these long period of droughts.
Austin clearly isn't a miracle worker but he is taking way too much blame for stuff out of his control.

(10-28-2018, 06:03 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote:   Lazor should take the majority of the blame today not sure the Defense.

 

402 yds, 21 first downs, 5 scoring drives is plenty of offense.

Defense allowed 576 yards, 29 first downs, 6 scoring drives.

(10-28-2018, 06:26 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Let's look at the facts for a second
1.) Our Nickle Defense is missing 4 key players (one is out for the year unfortunately in Lawson) Vigil, Vontaz, and Dennard are all important to this unit.
2.) In the 5 games we won the Defense has forced 12 turnovers and had 18 sacks. You can say it's played bad but the truth is we would not have the 5 wins without them . There making explosive plays for sure.
3.) The three game prior to this game the Bengals only scored 13, 20, and 13. That's pathetic and today the offense only scored once in the second half and had 4 straight three and outs against a terrible Defense. In fact last week we could not move the Ball against the worst defense in the NFL. The offense needs to be able to get out of these long period of droughts.
Austin clearly isn't a miracle worker but he is taking way too much blame for stuff out of his control.

Is he your dad or something?

(10-28-2018, 05:50 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: There is no one on the Bengals' coaching staff that can take over DC other than Marvin Lewis.  Lewis would have to do a dual role of HC and DC until next season if they can find someone to replace Austin.

Yea, it would be pretty difficult for Marvin to call plays on defense AND clap his hands after a bad play.

I dunno how he would manage.

(10-28-2018, 06:42 PM)Browns Town Bengal Wrote: Is he your dad or something?

Comments like this are uncalled for. He provided his opinion and provided stats to support his opinion.

(10-28-2018, 06:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Comments like this are uncalled for. He provided his opinion and provided stats to support his opinion.

Yeah. That scathing rejoinder really took the paint off.

Come on. Let’s take off our blouses while we post.

(10-28-2018, 06:45 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Yea, it would be pretty difficult for Marvin to call plays on defense AND clap his hands after a bad play.

I dunno how he would manage.

This is quality internet posting.

The 4 picks on defense,were gifts from Jamies Winston,including the pick six.He threw it straight to them.They did get some sacks,but that was Winston as well.Never seen him play that bad.Fitzpatrick had no int’s,and no sacks.This defense is beyond terrible.Fire Austin.

(10-28-2018, 05:50 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: There is no one on the Bengals' coaching staff that can take over DC other than Marvin Lewis.  Lewis would have to do a dual role of HC and DC until next season if they can find someone to replace Austin.

Remember when Andy Reed started calling the plays for his team (at least I think it was him). Marvin was a defensive guy. Might work TBH.

I don't think anyone can deny this Defense is horrible. Saying the offense is worse, give me a break.
If you want to compare apples to apples - the Offense has 5 starters out.

Like Jimmy Johnson said, you do not fire somebody until you have somebody better lined up to replace them. So are you really wanting Merv to call the D, because I think he's got all he can handle being HC.... now at the end of the year, yes, Austin needs canned.

Heck, maybe Oakland will give us Guenther back. Indy's scored 35 and counting.

(10-28-2018, 07:06 PM)ezekiel23 Wrote: The 4 picks on defense,were gifts from Jamies Winston,including the pick six.He threw it straight to them.They did get some sacks,but that was Winston as well.Never seen him play that bad.Fitzpatrick had no int’s,and no sacks.This defense is beyond terrible.Fire Austin.

Fitz was sacked once, and he escaped what would have been another.

And we almost picked him on the final drive.  Alas it was dropped...

(10-28-2018, 07:54 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: Fitz was sacked once, and he escaped what would have been another.

And we almost picked him on the final drive.  Alas it was dropped...

Thank you. Was going to say that

(10-28-2018, 07:24 PM)bengals73 Wrote: I don't think anyone can deny this Defense is horrible. Saying the offense is worse, give me a break.
If you want to compare apples to apples - the Offense has 5 starters out.

The defense is missing key players as well (Burfict, Vigil, Dennard).

(10-28-2018, 06:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote:  

402 yds, 21 first downs, 5 scoring drives is plenty of offense.

Defense allowed 576 yards, 29 first downs, 6 scoring drives.

Second half 
4 out of 6 drives  ended with a three and out
5 out of six drives ended with out a score
Only score was a 44 yard field goal on the final drive
Only 24 minutes of possession compared to 35 of the Bucs. 
Offense imploded just as much as the Defense.