This is our record vs. Playoff teams year by year. Actual Playoff loses are included, we're playing playoff teams.

2003: 1-3 vs. Playoff teams
Broncos - L
Ravens - L,W
St. L Rams - L

2004: 2-4 vs. Playoff teams actually 1-4, we played the Eagles in week 17 and won but they had playoff spot secured playing backups.
Steelers - L,L
Jets - L
Broncos - W
Patriots - L
Eagles - W

2005: 2-4
*Steelers - L,W,L
Jags - L
Colts - L
Bears - W

2006: 3-4
Chiefs - W
Patriots - L
Ravens - L.W
Chargers - L
Saints - W
Colts - L

2007: 1-4
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Titans - W
Seahawks -L

2008: 0-7-1 interestingly enough one of Merv's worst season coincides with playing several games against playoff teams.
Titans - L
Steelers - L,L
Colts - L
Ravens - L,L
Giants - L
Eagles - Tie

2009: 3-4 One loss against Jets was at end of season and we were resting starters. The other the playoffs.
Ravens - W,W
Chargers -L
*Jets - L,L
Vikings - L
Packers - W

2010: 1-7 again several games against playoff bound teams and we got smoked !
Steelers - L,L
Ravens - L,W
Colts - L
Jets - L
Falcons - L
Saints - L

2011: 0-8 Ironic huh ? never beat a playoff team all year and we made playoffs
Ravens - L,L
Steelers - L,L
*Texans - L,L
Broncos - L
49ers - L

2012: 2-3
Ravens - L,W
Broncos - L
Redskins - W
*Texans - L

2013: 4-1 Merv's best season against playoff teams, and we still fold in crunch time !
Patriots - W
*Chargers - W,L
Colts - W
Packers - W

2014: 3-5-1
Steelers L,L
Ravens - W,W
Patriots - L
*Colts - L, L
Broncos - W
Panthers - Tie

2015: 3-5 After beating the Steelers in week 9 or so we played 4 more games, including playoffs against PO teams and lost every one.
*Steelers L,W,L
Broncos - L
Chiefs - W
Texans - L
Cardinals - L
Seahawks - W

2016: 1-6
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Dolphins - W
Texans - L
Cowboys - L
Giants - L

2017: 1-5
Steelers L,L
Jags - L
Bills - W
Titans - L
Vikings - L

Marvin Lewis overall record against playoff bound teams:

27 Wins
70 Loses
2 ties

99 games total and he's won a touch over 25% of the time

NEAR 75% of the time we're playing playoff level teams, including playoffs,

WE LOSE

(12-20-2018, 03:52 PM)HarleyDog Wrote:

Once we get to include 2018 things will start looking a lot better, well ummmmmm

Ok, I'm sure in 2019, ummmmm 

*added to personal archive

But yeah, what else is there left to say. The man is a .500 coach that thrives on .500 and below teams at 1pm.

Mike Brown has a perfectly good excuse for each and every one of those.

(12-20-2018, 04:13 PM)Atomic Orange Wrote: *added to personal archive

But yeah, what else is there left to say. The man is a .500 coach that thrives on .500 and below teams at 1pm.

Marvin can't run with the big dogs, but Mike won't put him on the porch.

It makes no sense ! How much more evidence do you need ?

Thank you for the very informative post. Sometimes stats are spread around here to make ML look better than he really is. We want to nip that in the bud.

(12-20-2018, 03:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: This is our record vs. Playoff teams year by year. Actual Playoff loses are included, we're playing playoff teams.

2003: 1-3 vs. Playoff teams
Broncos - L
Ravens - L,W
St. L Rams - L

2004: 2-4 vs. Playoff teams actually 1-4, we played the Eagles in week 17 and won but they had playoff spot secured playing backups.
Steelers - L,L
Jets - L
Broncos - W
Patriots - L
Eagles - W

2005: 2-4
*Steelers - L,W,L
Jags - L
Colts - L
Bears - W

2006: 3-4
Chiefs - W
Patriots - L
Ravens - L.W
Chargers - L
Saints - W
Colts - L

2007: 1-4
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Titans - W
Seahawks -L

2008: 0-7-1 interestingly enough one of Merv's worst season coincides with playing several games against playoff teams.
Titans - L
Steelers - L,L
Colts - L
Ravens - L,L
Giants - L
Eagles - Tie

2009: 3-4 One loss against Jets was at end of season and we were resting starters. The other the playoffs.
Ravens - W,W
Chargers -L
*Jets - L,L
Vikings - L
Packers - W

2010: 1-7 again several games against playoff bound teams and we got smoked !
Steelers - L,L
Ravens - L,W
Colts - L
Jets - L
Falcons - L
Saints - L

2011: 0-8 Ironic huh ? never beat a playoff team all year and we made playoffs
Ravens - L,L
Steelers - L,L
*Texans - L,L
Broncos - L
49ers - L

2012: 2-3
Ravens - L,W
Broncos - L
Redskins - W
*Texans - L

2013: 4-1 Merv's best season against playoff teams, and we still fold in crunch time !
Patriots - W
*Chargers - W,L
Colts - W
Packers - W

2014: 3-5-1
Steelers L,L
Ravens - W,W
Patriots - L
*Colts - L, L
Broncos - W
Panthers - Tie

2015: 3-5 After beating the Steelers in week 9 or so we played 4 more games, including playoffs against PO teams and lost every one.
*Steelers L,W,L
Broncos - L
Chiefs - W
Texans - L
Cardinals - L
Seahawks - W

2016: 1-6
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Dolphins - W
Texans - L
Cowboys - L
Giants - L

2017: 1-5
Steelers L,L
Jags - L
Bills - W
Titans - L
Vikings - L

Marvin Lewis overall record against playoff bound teams:

27 Wins
70 Loses
2 ties

99 games total and he's won a touch over 25% of the time

NEAR 75% of the time we're playing playoff level teams, including playoffs,

WE LOSE

Where does that rank with the rest of the teams in the league? Because Fred posted essentially the same topic but it said the Bengals were 12th best across the league. However, that was against winning teams, which includes more than just playoff teams. His stats were 42 wins against teams with winning records. So I guess that would be 42% against "teams with winning records" but drops down to 25% when that list of teams is filtered down to just those that made the playoffs? If so, that's a big dropoff.

yet he’s still employed

(12-20-2018, 05:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Where does that rank with the rest of the teams in the league? Because Fred posted essentially the same topic but it said the Bengals were 12th best across the league. However, that was against winning teams, which includes more than just playoff teams. His stats were 42 wins against teams with winning records. So I guess that would be 42% against "teams with winning records" but drops down to 25% when that list of teams is filtered down to just those that made the playoffs? If so, that's a big dropoff.

Big drop indeed. I think I looked up the records vs. winning teams several years ago. old board maybe ? I might do that next ?

(12-20-2018, 06:08 PM)TSwigZ Wrote: yet he’s still employed

Defies any and all logic !

(12-20-2018, 03:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: This is our record vs. Playoff teams year by year. Actual Playoff loses are included, we're playing playoff teams.

2003: 1-3 vs. Playoff teams
Broncos - L
Ravens - L,W
St. L Rams - L

2004: 2-4 vs. Playoff teams actually 1-4, we played the Eagles in week 17 and won but they had playoff spot secured playing backups.
Steelers - L,L
Jets - L
Broncos - W
Patriots - L
Eagles - W

2005: 2-4
*Steelers - L,W,L
Jags - L
Colts - L
Bears - W

2006: 3-4
Chiefs - W
Patriots - L
Ravens - L.W
Chargers - L
Saints - W
Colts - L

2007: 1-4
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Titans - W
Seahawks -L

2008: 0-7-1 interestingly enough one of Merv's worst season coincides with playing several games against playoff teams.
Titans - L
Steelers - L,L
Colts - L
Ravens - L,L
Giants - L
Eagles - Tie

2009: 3-4 One loss against Jets was at end of season and we were resting starters. The other the playoffs.
Ravens - W,W
Chargers -L
*Jets - L,L
Vikings - L
Packers - W

2010: 1-7 again several games against playoff bound teams and we got smoked !
Steelers - L,L
Ravens - L,W
Colts - L
Jets - L
Falcons - L
Saints - L

2011: 0-8 Ironic huh ? never beat a playoff team all year and we made playoffs
Ravens - L,L
Steelers - L,L
*Texans - L,L
Broncos - L
49ers - L

2012: 2-3
Ravens - L,W
Broncos - L
Redskins - W
*Texans - L

2013: 4-1 Merv's best season against playoff teams, and we still fold in crunch time !
Patriots - W
*Chargers - W,L
Colts - W
Packers - W

2014: 3-5-1
Steelers L,L
Ravens - W,W
Patriots - L
*Colts - L, L
Broncos - W
Panthers - Tie

2015: 3-5 After beating the Steelers in week 9 or so we played 4 more games, including playoffs against PO teams and lost every one.
*Steelers L,W,L
Broncos - L
Chiefs - W
Texans - L
Cardinals - L
Seahawks - W

2016: 1-6
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Dolphins - W
Texans - L
Cowboys - L
Giants - L

2017: 1-5
Steelers L,L
Jags - L
Bills - W
Titans - L
Vikings - L

Marvin Lewis overall record against playoff bound teams:

27 Wins
70 Loses
2 ties

99 games total and he's won a touch over 25% of the time

NEAR 75% of the time we're playing playoff level teams, including playoffs,

WE LOSE

*Looks at record*

This is definitely Dalton's fault.

(12-20-2018, 03:45 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: This is our record vs. Playoff teams year by year. Actual Playoff loses are included, we're playing playoff teams.

2003: 1-3 vs. Playoff teams
Broncos - L
Ravens - L,W
St. L Rams - L

2004: 2-4 vs. Playoff teams actually 1-4, we played the Eagles in week 17 and won but they had playoff spot secured playing backups.
Steelers - L,L
Jets - L
Broncos - W
Patriots - L
Eagles - W

2005: 2-4
*Steelers - L,W,L
Jags - L
Colts - L
Bears - W

2006: 3-4
Chiefs - W
Patriots - L
Ravens - L.W
Chargers - L
Saints - W
Colts - L

2007: 1-4
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Titans - W
Seahawks -L

2008: 0-7-1 interestingly enough one of Merv's worst season coincides with playing several games against playoff teams.
Titans - L
Steelers - L,L
Colts - L
Ravens - L,L
Giants - L
Eagles - Tie

2009: 3-4 One loss against Jets was at end of season and we were resting starters. The other the playoffs.
Ravens - W,W
Chargers -L
*Jets - L,L
Vikings - L
Packers - W

2010: 1-7 again several games against playoff bound teams and we got smoked !
Steelers - L,L
Ravens - L,W
Colts - L
Jets - L
Falcons - L
Saints - L

2011: 0-8 Ironic huh ? never beat a playoff team all year and we made playoffs
Ravens - L,L
Steelers - L,L
*Texans - L,L
Broncos - L
49ers - L

2012: 2-3
Ravens - L,W
Broncos - L
Redskins - W
*Texans - L

2013: 4-1 Merv's best season against playoff teams, and we still fold in crunch time !
Patriots - W
*Chargers - W,L
Colts - W
Packers - W

2014: 3-5-1
Steelers L,L
Ravens - W,W
Patriots - L
*Colts - L, L
Broncos - W
Panthers - Tie

2015: 3-5 After beating the Steelers in week 9 or so we played 4 more games, including playoffs against PO teams and lost every one.
*Steelers L,W,L
Broncos - L
Chiefs - W
Texans - L
Cardinals - L
Seahawks - W

2016: 1-6
Steelers - L,L
Patriots - L
Dolphins - W
Texans - L
Cowboys - L
Giants - L

2017: 1-5
Steelers L,L
Jags - L
Bills - W
Titans - L
Vikings - L

Marvin Lewis overall record against playoff bound teams:

27 Wins
70 Loses
2 ties

99 games total and he's won a touch over 25% of the time

NEAR 75% of the time we're playing playoff level teams, including playoffs,

WE LOSE

In that light, 0-7 in the playoffs makes sense. It's just a continuation of how we normally play.

Of course, some 25% of those losses are to the Steelers as they essentially always make the playoffs.

(12-20-2018, 09:20 PM)The Caped Crusader Wrote: *Looks at record*

This is definitely Dalton's fault.

Yep, 100% on Dalton 

(12-20-2018, 10:15 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: In that light, 0-7 in the playoffs makes sense. It's just a continuation of how we normally play.

Of course, some 25% of those losses are to the Steelers as they essentially always make the playoffs.

The Steelers beating us like a drum is a large part for sure.

(12-20-2018, 05:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Where does that rank with the rest of the teams in the league?

Profootballreference has his record against playoff teams at 29-71-2.

19th in total wins
20th in winning percentage .294 not .250

31 of the 32 teams have losing records against playoff teams. 26 teams lost over 60% of their games against playoff teams.

(12-20-2018, 09:20 PM)The Caped Crusader Wrote: *Looks at record*

This is definitely Dalton's fault.

His 0-4 playoff record with 1 TD, 6 INTs, 4 FUMs and a 57 passer rating sure ain't exactly faultless though.

Setting our sights high in mediocrity. We have been at least the 2nd or 1st best "average team" in the NFL since Marvin.

Makes you wonder if we are even truly contenders. Stats say we are more pretenders.

(12-21-2018, 09:05 AM)Goalpost Wrote: Makes you wonder if we are even truly contenders.  Stats say we are more pretenders.

Mostly pretenders

2005 we were pretty good but we ran into Pittsburgh.

2013 we should have won, such a tragedy 

2015 we had a good team but fell flat on our faces from the Arizona loss on.