(02-20-2019, 09:06 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Funny, you had no concerns with Marvin and his track record.

You guys are making a false equivalency.  I always disagreed with people who said it was IMPOSSIBLE for Marvin to win a playoff game and today I would disagree with anyone who claims it is IMPOSSIBLE for this current staff to succeed.  But Marvin had a track record which included wins over the best teams in the league during the reguar season where as these new guys have not done anything.

I am not here saying the new staff will flop, but it is clear things are not going well right now.  There are legitimate reasons to be concerned.

Let's be honest folks, if the Steelers hired a QB coach to be their HC and they didn't have a DC this late in the game we would be laughing our arses off.

Right or wrong isn't the point, but we'd be laughing.

(02-19-2019, 07:05 PM)TheBengalsMind Wrote: I like him.

Here's a quick bio on him.

"Lou Anarumo was in his first season as the Giants’ defensive backs coach, a position he held the previous six years with the Miami Dolphins.

A native of Staten Island, N.Y., Anarumo earned his Bachelor of Science degree in special education from Wagner in 1990. While in college, he served as head junior varsity coach at Susan Wagner High School in Staten Island, N.Y.

From January to June 1990, Anarumo was a part-time running backs coach at Wagner College. He filled that same role at the United States Merchant Marine Academy from September 1989 to January 1990.

Anarumo was a graduate assistant coach at Syracuse University during the 1990-91 seasons. He was assistant defensive backs coach under Phil Elmassian – whom Anarumo replaced on the Purdue staff – and was responsible for film breakdown and organization of the scout teams.

From 1992-94, Anarumo was defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point, New York. He also served as the admissions liaison to the athletics department.

Prior to his stint at Marshall, Anarumo was assistant head coach at Harvard University from 1995-2000, working with the defensive backs and coordinating the special teams. During his tenure, he helped build a pass defense that led the league in pass efficiency defense in 1999 and ranked No. 2 in interceptions in 2000. 

Anarumo at Marshall University where he coached the defensive backs from 2001-03. He also served as special teams coordinator in 2003. The Thundering Herd ranked 10th in the nation in passing defense in 2003, allowing 177.4 yards per game. They were sixth in 2002 at 161.5 yards after ranking No. 37 in 2001 at 198.7 yards. Marshall compiled a 30-8 record over the three seasons and won the GMAC Bowl in 2001 and 2002.

From 2005-06, the Boilermakers rebuilt their secondary and improved from 287.3 passing yards allowed per game to 241.2 yards. Safety Bernard Pollard was selected by the Kansas City Chiefs in the second round (54th overall pick) of the 2006 NFL draft, becoming the highest-drafted Purdue defensive player since linebacker Fred Strickland (47th overall) by the Los Angeles Rams in 1988.

Anarumo joined the Dolphins after spending eight seasons (2004-11) as the defensive backs coach at Purdue University. With four new starters in 2010, the Boilermakers’ secondary featured true freshman corner- back Ricardo Allen, who finished with three interceptions, returning two of them for touchdowns and led the Big Ten in interception return yardage while earning freshman All- America honors.

In Anarumo’s first season with the Dolphins in 2012, safeties Chris Clemons and Jones both had the best seasons of their career to date. Starting all 16 games, Clemons set a career high with 96 tackles (69 solo), while Jones recorded 95 tackles (74 solo), one sack, two forced fumbles and four interceptions.

Anarumo guided a secondary that in 2013 saw marked improvement in his second season in Miami, going from 27th in the NFL in passing yards allowed per game in 2012 to being ranked 16th. The defense also nearly doubled its interception output, from 10 in 2012 to 18 in 2013. The team’s 35 touchdown passes allowed over the 2012-13 seasons were the second-fewest in the NFL to the Seattle Seahawks (31). The unit was fifth in the NFL in passer rating against, limiting opponents to a 77.3 rating. Grimes earned a Pro Bowl trip after tying for the team lead with four interceptions and pacing the unit with 17 passes defensed.

In 2014, Anarumo led a secondary that allowed only 222.3 passing yards per game, good for sixth-best in the NFL and the third-straight season of improvement in that category. His group scored three defensive touchdowns (cornerback Cortland Finnegan on a fumble return at Oakland and safety Louis Delmas and Grimes on intercep- tion returns at Jacksonville), marking the first season since 2003 when the Dolphins had three different players score defensive touchdowns. Grimes recorded a team-leading five interceptions en route to his second straight Pro Bowl and Jones was one of three players in the NFL in 2014 to record 70 or more tackles, one sack and three interceptions.

Anarumo entered the 2015 season as the secondary coach and was named defensive coordinator on Oct. 8. Under Anarumo’s direction, cornerback Brent Grimes and Jones were selected to the Pro Bowl, marking the first time since the 2003 season that Miami had two members of their secondary participate in the Pro Bowl in the same season.

The previous year, Anarumo’s secondary helped the Dolphins have their best season since 2008, winning 10 games and reaching the playoffs for the first time in eight years. The defensive backs helped the Dolphins string together seven consecutive games with a takeaway from Week 9 to Week 15, totaling 19 turnovers, the most in a seven-game span since 2004. Miami won nine of its final 11 games and during that stretch, Anarumo helped the passing defense rank No. 15 in the NFL (238.5 passing yards allowed per game) and force 21 turnovers, which tied for fourth in the league. Cornerback Tony Lippett led the team and tied for 11th in the NFL with four interceptions in his second NFL season, despite playing wide receiver in college.

In 2017, strong safety Reshad Jones led the Dolphins with 122 tackles and was selected as a starter on the AFC Pro Bowl team. Cornerback Xavien Howard was one of 25 NFL players with at least four interceptions, including one he returned 30 yards for a touchdown."

Yeah.....that's pretty mediocre.

(02-19-2019, 09:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But we do have information available.  We can see what these guys have accomplished in the past.

You mean like how we could deduce that Marvin Lewis would never win a playoff game in Cincy due to what he accomplished in the playoffs in the past?  That kind of information, or no?

(02-20-2019, 10:01 AM)fredtoast Wrote: You guys are making a false equivalency.  I always disagreed with people who said it was IMPOSSIBLE for Marvin to win a playoff game and today I would disagree with anyone who claims it is IMPOSSIBLE for this current staff to succeed.  But Marvin had a track record which included wins over the best teams in the league during the reguar season where as these new guys have not done anything.

I am not here saying the new staff will flop, but it is clear things are not going well right now.  There are legitimate reasons to be concerned.

OK, that's fair enough......

(02-20-2019, 12:53 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: So we can't look at how their teams performed or the most relevant rankings to their position groups.

When you said "resume" you meant "experience", apparently.

Defensive coordinators install the defense that is run and call the plays/coverages. So what you're saying is Wade Phillips is better than Kevin Coyle and Vance Joseph.

Those pass defense rankings are a testament to the entire defense not 1 position coach. Passing defense involves the entire defense if a team has a better defensive line they will have a better pass rush which effects the passing defense rankings. Look at the Bengals they got a solid year in 2018 from their DB group but their linebackers were so bad it drops their Pass defense numbers.

I'm over the initial disappointment and ready just to get a coach (and DL/LB coach) in here to start work on getting the 2019 season underway. Just hope we don't keep failed coaches for long, but willing to give this coaching staff a break given the circumstances (limited pool).

What other options do we have at this point. I doubt any DC candidate would impress us at this point in the process.

(02-20-2019, 10:44 AM)jj22 Wrote: I'm over the initial disappointment and ready just to get a coach (and DL/LB coach) in here to start work on getting the 2019 season underway. Just hope we don't keep failed coaches for long, but willing to give this coaching staff a break given the circumstances (limited pool).

What other options do we have at this point. I doubt any DC candidate would impress us at this point in the process.

I'm with you, I'm just wary because we've blamed our past 3 losing seasons in no small part on hiring bad coordinators.

2019 is already shaping up to be another "doesn't count" kind of season.

They won't say it, but the focus has to be on 2020 and beyond right now.

(02-19-2019, 01:48 PM)JungleRock85 Wrote: 52 years old and not much out there on him being a real successful DB coach let alone DC. Anyone still want to say that Taylor has ever had a plan from the start?

I suspect like most people in general, Taylor just wanted the promotion and higher income and go from there....
Rather than giving the plan THE priority?  Don't know, at least he's highly esteemed or McVay just wanted him out.  ALL SPECULATION. But it definitely would have been more reassuring if he had his team ready by now.

(02-20-2019, 09:06 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Funny, you had no concerns with Marvin and his track record.

I'm not jumping to any conclusions about ZT and his staff 6 months before his first season.

Dalton’s postseason track record also doesn’t “concern” old Fred. He’s seems to be kind of selective about what does...

Simple answer. There is nothing to get excited about this guy and it's a huge step backward in winning over the fanbase. I don't really want to recreate the Miami Dolphins.

(02-20-2019, 11:04 AM)jj22 Wrote: They won't say it, but the focus has to be on 2020 and beyond right now.

No it doesn’t. Teams can turn around quicker in the NFL than any other league.

(02-20-2019, 11:43 AM)Okeana Wrote: Simple answer.  There is nothing to get excited about this guy and it's a huge step backward in winning over the fanbase.  I don't really want to recreate the Miami Dolphins.

More specifically, the 2015 Miami Dolphins.

I get wanting to work with people you are familiar with, and I will keep an open mind until I've been given a reason to close it, but it's been very hard to get excited about any of these moves.  Where are the success stories? I'm not seeing any.

(02-19-2019, 07:45 PM)Au165 Wrote: But Pleasant knows Sean McVay!

I think you ment to say  Pleasant knows Wade Phillips as McVay doesn't do much on that side of the ball.

(02-20-2019, 11:43 AM)Okeana Wrote: Simple answer.  There is nothing to get excited about this guy and it's a huge step backward in winning over the fanbase.  I don't really want to recreate the Miami Dolphins.

fans demanded change and they got it how is that a step back cause you don't like the change?


That old Saying "careful what you wish for you might just get it..."

(02-20-2019, 12:05 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: fans demanded change and they got it how is that a step back cause you don't like the change?


That old Saying "careful what you wish for you might just get it..."

if you're excited about this defensive coordinator candidate I don't even know what to say.  The rest of this rambling is irrelevant nonsense 

(02-20-2019, 12:04 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: I think you ment to say  Pleasant knows Wade Phillips as McVay doesn't do much on that side of the ball.

Nah, I meant McVay. That is the running joke, if you know McVay you get jobs. 

(02-20-2019, 11:47 AM)Big Boss Wrote: More specifically, the 2015 Miami Dolphins.

I get wanting to work with people you are familiar with, and I will keep an open mind until I've been given a reason to close it, but it's been very hard to get excited about any of these moves.  Where are the success stories?  I'm not seeing any.

Funny how people say things like they will keep an open mind then proceed in the next sentence not to.

(02-20-2019, 12:09 PM)Au165 Wrote: Nah, I meant McVay. That is the running joke, if you know McVay you get jobs. 

People act like it hasn’t always been like that.