(02-21-2019, 04:00 PM)pally Wrote: now onto the rest of the open positions

For those of you that come on here and say we had several coaches turn cincy down for the the DC position that is just bull.We had the dude in florida who got a ton of money to stay there, the dude at ohio state just got there,jack del was turned down by Zac, and he did not want the rest.How all this crap starts is just gossip.I believe we got our guy.Hey remember for years you wanted marvin lewis and his staff gone.Quit complaining.










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(02-21-2019, 04:40 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: “Let’s just want and see what happens, friends.”

Or ***** like schoolgirls, jump to conclusions, pretend to see the future, act like guys who weren't unquestioned home runs in the past cannot possibly do well later{AHEM...Mike Zimmer, Bill Belichick), think that fretting can influence any kind of future outcome.

Matter of choice, really.  Me, I'll be worrying about the things in life I can do something about.

Oh, what a six months it will be. 

Don't sleep on Lou. From what I have heard about him he is a very personable guy, who continues to check in on his former players year round. While i am concerned about how the defense will turn out with him leading it next year, i am sure he will be well liked in the locker room. That is a big step in establishing a new culture, getting the players to buy in. Fans have it easy, we hear a new coach call for a change after bad seasons, and we jump on it. Players are the ones who built relationships with the old staff for years, and now have to learn a entirely new system from a staff lacking experience. Expect growth pains from the team all together.

(02-21-2019, 04:17 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Whining about whining always stops the whining. 

Seriously though, if people are so wrong about Anarumo, why don't you tell us why? 

I think people only whine about whining when they know there is truth to the whining that they really can't debate.

He didn't complain about it.  He predicted it.  Big difference.  Hey, if some of us can see the future, why can't we all?

(02-21-2019, 04:52 PM)McC Wrote: Or ***** like schoolgirls, jump to conclusions, pretend to see the future, act like guys who weren't unquestioned home runs in the past cannot possibly do well later{AHEM...Mike Zimmer, Bill Belichick), think that fretting can influence any kind of future outcome.

Matter of choice, really.  Me, I'll be worrying about the things in life I can do something about.

Oh, what a six months it will be. 

No one's stopping you. Not sure why you felt the need to announce that. 

(02-21-2019, 04:24 PM)JungleRock85 Wrote: From Jack Del Rio to this guy that was last a full time DC running his own Defense (not counting interim stint with Dolphins) in 1994. Hard to see any reason to think this will turn out well. Our defense was one of the worst in the league so let's just settle for an unproven guy that seems mediocre at best in general and hope it turns well....yikes.

Eberflus in Indy was 10 years removed from calling a D (a college one at that) before last year. 

He's worked with Miami for quite awhile. Obviously a connection with Zac Taylor.

The Dolphins pass defense while Anarumo :
2012 -27th
2013 - 16th
2014 - 6th
2015 - 21st
2016 - 15th
2017 16th
2018 - 23rd.
But there's much more than just Yardage. And we all know that linebackers play a large role in pass defenses, so it's hard to pinpoint how much of a role that had in these rankings. But let's dive deeper.

When it comes to QB rating against his defenses, here's where these defenses ranked.
2012 - 83.4 (13th)
2013 - 77.3 (4th)
2014 - 89.7 (16th)
2015 - 97.4 (24th)
2016 - 88.8 (T-16th)
2017 - 94.8 (28th)
2018 - 89.8 (9th)

Let's now look at interceptions

2012 - 13 (T-22nd)
2013 - 19 (T-10th)
2014 - 12 (T-21st)
2015 - 13 (T-17th)
2016 - 15 (T-12th)
2017 - 21 (3rd)
2018 - 12 (T-16th)

Passing touchdowns allowed (this is going by from least to most allowed, so, for instance, if they are ranked 3rd, that means they are the 3rd best and allowed the 3rd least passing TDs among the league)

2012 - 18 (6th)
2013 - 17 (T-3rd)
2014 - 27 (T-20th)
2015 - 31 (T-25th)
2016 - 30 (T-25th)
2017 - 26 (23rd)
2018 - 24 (13th)

Now, those stats are obviously not SOLELY from the secondary, as linebackers are also in coverage (we've seen that first hand)

(02-21-2019, 04:56 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: No one's stopping you. Not sure why you felt the need to announce that. 

Probably for the same reason everyone else feels the need to say whatever they want to say.   Duh.

(02-21-2019, 04:20 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: So, I'd surmise that when Cpt. Lou said he'd be in, it all came down to money. 

(02-21-2019, 05:01 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: He's worked with Miami for quite awhile. Obviously a connection with Zac Taylor.

The Dolphins pass defense while Anarumo :
2012 -27th
2013 - 16th
2014 - 6th
2015 - 21st
2016 - 15th
2017 16th
2018 - 23rd.
But there's much more than just Yardage. And we all know that linebackers play a large role in pass defenses, so it's hard to pinpoint how much of a role that had in these rankings. But let's dive deeper.

When it comes to QB rating against his defenses, here's where these defenses ranked.
2012 - 83.4 (13th)
2013 - 77.3 (4th)
2014 - 89.7 (16th)
2015 - 97.4 (24th)
2016 - 88.8 (T-16th)
2017 - 94.8 (28th)
2018 - 89.8 (9th)

Let's now look at interceptions

2012 - 13 (T-22nd)
2013 - 19 (T-10th)
2014 - 12 (T-21st)
2015 - 13 (T-17th)
2016 - 15 (T-12th)
2017 - 21 (3rd)
2018 - 12 (T-16th)

Passing touchdowns allowed (this is going by from least to most allowed, so, for instance, if they are ranked 3rd, that means they are the 3rd best and allowed the 3rd least passing TDs among the league)

2012 - 18 (6th)
2013 - 17 (T-3rd)
2014 - 27 (T-20th)
2015 - 31 (T-25th)
2016 - 30 (T-25th)
2017 - 26 (23rd)
2018 - 24 (13th)

Now, those stats are obviously not SOLELY from the secondary, as linebackers are also in coverage (we've seen that first hand)

Good work getting the data, does not look too enticing for sure, but a variable we must consider is he was not calling the defense, rather he was a LB coach for the dolphins. 

(02-21-2019, 04:47 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: no reason to bash it either like most are until we see it isn't gonna work... and we know he has to retool that defense or the results wont change much reguardless of whos running the show.

Guess we shouldn't say anything at all then. Why are we even in this thread?

Alrighty then. Let's see how this goes.

(02-21-2019, 04:26 PM)NKURyan Wrote: There were a lot of people really excited about them hiring a name coach in Austin last year (though noone will actually own up it) and that went over about as well as a wet fart during the season, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah Im gonna have to call out bullshit here. There might have been a few but the vast majority opinion was look how the Lions "D" has performed and it was very underwhelming. So you can play devils advocate on this thread because the new guy is unproven but this comment? BS

On the other side of it Marvin the defensive mastermind hired Austin and look how that turned out. 

Zacs on the clock now, lets see what he can do and hope for the best! If he cant do it lets hope it doesn't take another 16 years to make changes

(02-21-2019, 04:52 PM)McC Wrote: Or ***** like schoolgirls, jump to conclusions, pretend to see the future, act like guys who weren't unquestioned home runs in the past cannot possibly do well later{AHEM...Mike Zimmer, Bill Belichick), think that fretting can influence any kind of future outcome.

Matter of choice, really.  Me, I'll be worrying about the things in life I can do something about.

Oh, what a six months it will be. 

These are TERRIBLE examples of the point you are trying to prove.

Mike Zimmer was the DC when Dallas had a #1 defense in 2003.
Bill Belichick won a playoff game with the BROWNS. Not his fault the owner chose the next year to announce his team to a different city.

sometimes experience doesnt equal success.
exhibit A Teryl Austin.
exhibit B Leslie Frazier

(02-21-2019, 05:02 PM)McC Wrote: Probably for the same reason everyone else feels the need to say whatever they want to say.   Duh.

You know, complain about, "Bengal Machine," but when presented with the same, "argument," (read: shitty attitude towards something, thrown back in their face), snark abounds.

(02-21-2019, 05:08 PM)GodFather Wrote: Yeah Im gonna have to call out bullshit here. There might have been a few but the vast majority opinion was look how the Lions "D" has performed and it was very underwhelming. So you can play devils advocate on this thread because the new guy is unproven but this comment? BS

On the other side of it Marvin the defensive mastermind hired Austin and look how that turned out. 

Zacs on the clock now, lets see what he can do and hope for the best! If he cant do it lets hope it doesn't take another 16 years to make changes

A shitload of people were excited, go back and look again.

(02-21-2019, 05:13 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: A shitload of people were excited, go back and look again.

no way, dont have to look, no way in hell a "shitload" of people were excited. I remember more complaining than anything else..

I wonder if this will lead to a pursuit of Landon Collins. I’d love to replace Williams with Collins.

(02-21-2019, 05:20 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: I wonder if this will lead to a pursuit of Landon Collins. I’d love to replace Williams with Collins.

What if I told you PFF had Shawn Williams rated above Landon Collins last year....