(04-28-2019, 10:46 AM)StrictlyBiz Wrote:

More rational heads prevail. Vegas doesn't mess around when it comes to their money:

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26632605/slow-roll-vegas-says-browns-miss-playoffs

On average home attendance for Browns game is just pitiful. I went to Ohio for my best mates wedding and tickets couldn't be given away. Two of my buddies bought front row seats to a game, on game day, for $20. And it was against The Ratbirds, bitter division rivals and no one cared enough to show up for it.

(04-29-2019, 06:12 AM)BakertheBeast Wrote: What rookie records did Manzel break. Baker the dream maker swept the Bungals. Did Manzel do that? You guys are jealous and scared to death of Baker. Your franchise QB is a backup at best.

oh here we go folks. another brown clown backer. baker mayfly hasn't been properly introduced yet as an official cleveland qb. he will be this year GUARANTEED!!! as for his brother manziel, he was the clowns draft choice and he did set a record as he completed a pass in a game! Take those stats and shove them in that pie hole of yours!!!

(04-30-2019, 11:59 AM)RASCAL Wrote: oh here we go folks. another brown clown backer...

He’s a Brown-Clown Baker-Backer.  

I just want the Browns to be good enough to beat the Steelers more than 0 times per year.

(04-30-2019, 03:03 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I just want the Browns to be good enough to beat the Steelers more than 0 times per year.

(04-30-2019, 03:58 PM)Vambo Wrote:

Meh, that's about as impressive as us seeping the Browns during our prior losing seasons.  

(04-30-2019, 04:47 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Meh, that's about as impressive as us seeping the Browns during our prior losing seasons.  

(04-30-2019, 04:59 PM)Vambo Wrote:

Are you trying to say that sweeping a lousy team as part of your own losing season is impressive?

Whatever ... You do you, man. 

(04-30-2019, 06:42 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Are you trying to say that sweeping a lousy team as part of your own losing season is impressive?

Whatever ... You do you, man. 

Did I say that or did that itty bitty wittle shared brain of yours come up with that? 

Stay away from steroids they are bad for you just ask former Steelers players.

(05-01-2019, 04:11 PM)Vambo Wrote: Mambo

Did I say that or did that itty bitty wittle shared brain of yours come up with that? 

Stay away from steroids they are bad for you just ask former Steelers players.

You implied it.  I now see that this may have been unintentional.  Do you need me to explain it?  


As for the steroid comment ... 



That didn’t even make sense.  Nothing about this situation even resembles a documented side effect of steroids.  

Also, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a triple run-on sentence before.  Well done.  

(04-29-2019, 03:08 PM)Vambo Wrote:

I was going to say that you're not very bright. But I realize that being a Clowns fan you've been on hiatus around here since....probably the 1980s, and you don't know who's who. 

(04-30-2019, 11:59 AM)RASCAL Wrote: oh here we go folks. another brown clown backer. baker mayfly hasn't been properly introduced yet as an official cleveland qb. he will be this year GUARANTEED!!! as for his brother manziel, he was the clowns draft choice and he did set a record as he completed a pass in a game! Take those stats and shove them in that pie hole of yours!!!

Your signature says it all. I have nothing to add.  Thank you for your honesty.

(04-30-2019, 11:04 AM)Bronze Bengal Wrote: On average home attendance for Browns game is just pitiful.  I went to Ohio for my best mates wedding and tickets couldn't be given away.  Two of my buddies bought front row seats to a game, on game day, for $20.  And it was against The Ratbirds, bitter division rivals and no one cared enough to show up for it.

Sort of like the Bungals faithful when Chad OnoStinko graciously bought ten thousand seats up so the place wouldn't look empty. Thanks for bringing that up.

(05-02-2019, 03:30 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote:

(04-29-2019, 03:08 PM)Vambo Wrote:

I was going to say that you're not very bright. But I realize that being a Clowns fan you've been on hiatus around here since....probably the 1980s, and you don't know who's who. 

Did these two play in the 80's?  

 On July 23, 2003, Palmer signed a six-year contract



Johnson in the second round of the 2001 NFL Draft



and this is an 80's style jersey below   "you don't know who's who."


I was going to say that you're not very bright. But I realize that being a Bungles fan says all that need be said. You don't eve know the players and history of your own team.

(05-03-2019, 02:12 PM)Vambo Wrote: Did these two play in the 80's?  

 On July 23, 2003, Palmer signed a six-year contract



Johnson in the second round of the 2001 NFL Draft



and this is an 80's style jersey below   "you don't know who's who."


I was going to say that you're not very bright. But I realize that being a Bungles fan says all that need be said. You don't eve know the players and history of your own team.

Lol, keep digging that hole kid. 

Maybe some of the regulars can give this guy a clue. 

(05-01-2019, 05:18 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote:  Nothing about this situation even resembles a documented side effect of steroids.  

Steroidgate (1970-2007) to top ⤴home ⇐awards ⤵


TEAM: The Pittsburgh Steelers


SEVERITY:.

SUMMARY: Richard Rydze, a Pittsburgh Steelers team doctor from 1985 to 2007, was indicted in 2012 for his long history of purchasing and illegally prescribing anabolic steroids, human growth hormones and painkillers. The physician was also charged with health care fraud for falsely diagnosing more than 90 patients with pituitary dwarfism so they could receive human growth hormones and drugs meant to counteract the side-effects of steroid use.

Rydze was also on the customer list of an Orlando, FL, pharmacy that was raided in February 2007 as part of an interstate steroids ring. Rydze was questioned then about buying $150,000 worth of testosterone and human growth hormone on his credit card in 2006, but was not charged in that investigation.

The Steelers dropped Rydze from their roster of doctors in June 2007.

In the decade prior to Rydze's tenure, many Steelers also admitted to using steroids to gain an advantage. Former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw admitted in 2008 that he used steroids during his playing career. Bradshaw said on Dan Patrick's radio show: “We did steroids to get away the aches and the speed of healing. My use of steroids from a doctor was to speed up injury, and thought nothing of it. It was to speed up the healing process, that was it. It wasn't to get bigger and stronger and faster.”
Former Saints coach Jim Haslett accused the '70s Steelers of being "the ones who kind of started" steroid use in the NFL.
Said Haslett: "It started, really, in Pittsburgh. They got an advantage on a lot of football teams. They were so much stronger (in the) '70s, late '70s, early '80s.

Former Vikings and Giants quarterback Fran Tarkenton corroborated Haslett's story in a June 2009 interview, saying: "We’re playing the Steelers in the Super Bowl in ’75 or ’76 … we’re on the field warming up, and I see these Steeler offensive linemen with their sleeves rolled up, and they've got these bulging muscles. Later, we found out it that … these guys were juiced … all of them."

VICTIM: The entire league


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the Aftermath of Steroids


Take it away,Steve Courson: "Preparing for the Bucs' April minicamp, I began my mostserious cycle yet: a weekly regimen of 4 cc testosterone cypionate, 4 ccWinstrol V, 4 cc Deca-Durabolin, and 4 cc liquid Diana-bol. I knew that it wasa lot, but it seemed worth the risk.... My intention was to enter the '85season at 285 pounds-able to bench press more than 600 pounds, squat about 850,and dead lift about 900."

That unfitnessregimen is recounted in Courson's new book, False Glory (Longmeadow Press,$19.95). Courson, who used muscle-enhancing anabolic-androgenic steroidsthroughout his eight-year career as an offensive lineman for the PittsburghSteelers and Tampa Bay I Buccaneers after discovering them while playing atSouth Carolina, writes that by 1985 he had built himself into a bizarrelyshaped "chemically augmented athlete." He had a 38½-inch waist, a58-inch chest, 20½-inch biceps and a neck just a wisp short of being 23 inchesaround. He was one of those NFL linemen who keep their bulging arms exposed incold weather, a guy who looked as if he had swallowed an airhose after settingthe gauge at 100 pounds per square inch. He had two Super Bowl rings and hadbeen named an alternate to the 1982 Pro Bowl.

But then he gotsick. In 1985 his resting pulse was measured at more than 150 beats per minute,his electrocardiogram showed signs of atrial fibrillation, and his steroid usewas out of control. Still, he played on. And cycled on.

Even after TampaBay released him in '86, Courson kept guzzling the steroids. Fully juiced, hebenched 605 pounds in a powerlifting meet in 1988. "By the day of thecontest," he writes, "I was at the end of a sixteen-week cycle, havingingested or injected substantial doses of Dianabol, Anavar (both orals),Deca-Durabolin, testosterone enanthate, and testosterone propionate (oil-basedinjectables) before capping it off with some human chorionicgonadotropin."


Less than threemonths later he landed in intensive care at a Pittsburgh hospital, diagnosedwith dilated cardiomyopathy, an enlarged heart that lacked the ability to pumpnormally because of lost muscle fibers. What irony—at age 33 the strongman wasdying because of a flabby muscle. He needed a new heart. Now, three yearslater, he still does, and he waits for the phone call that may not come soonenough, the one that tells him a donor has been found.

This book isCourson's reflection on a sporting life gone awry, a heartfelt, if you will,attempt by a former prince of machismo to figure out why he did so many crazythings to play the game of football. Of course, Courson now has the time formusings on his former steroid use, binge drinking and tunnel vision. He is weakand can exercise only cautiously. He does not have his college degree and haslost much of his career earnings in bad business deals. He has been through thefire, gotten burned and wants to tell us that the flames are hot.

Can we learnanything from this? Maybe, maybe not. The sad truth is we've heard it allbefore. Football is brutal. It consumes its players, who are puppets todictatorial coaches (in Courson's case, the Steelers' icily distant ChuckNoll), and it leads players to pursue unethical and self-destructive behaviorin an attempt to delay that moment when the coach tells them that it's time toget on with the rest of their lives.

Courson gobbledsteroids and kept almost 300 pounds on his . 6'1" frame so that he could ;continue, as he says, "to perform in a sport that I would have played fornothing." He knew the drug-taking was wrong and unhealthy, but everyoneelse was doing it, he claims, so why not? "Without naming names,"writes Courson, "I can state unequivocally that during my time inPittsburgh 75 percent of the Steeler offensive line took anabolic-androgenicsteroids at one time or another.

"There's no glory dying for a sport."

(05-03-2019, 02:29 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Lol, keep digging that hole kid. 

Maybe some of the regulars can give this guy a clue. 

Why don't you fill us in?